On 18 Aug 2013, len Holliday wrote:
It is high time that we in the USA get behind Piers Corbyn and show the world that most weather forecasters have it all wrong! The tiny bite of CO2 means nothing with regard to temps. going up or down. That is false science driven by stupidity and the U.S. Govt. is using all these very stupid people to push their agenda of Global Warming so they can tax the hell out of industry to pay down the run away debt Obama helped create. It is all about greed(money) to line their pockets. Al Gore's net worth was $2 million 10 years ago and is now $300 million and going up by the day. His on wife left him for someone with no money that believes the truth, that we are near an all out Ice Age that will destroy America and the rest of the world because no one is prepared for such a thing as the world of Hoax keeps telling them we are going to die from Global Warming. Well, Guys your GW Party is about over. We have heard all your lies long enough! It is high time America we stand up for what is right
On 15 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Overnight rain, low 13˚C, 15˚ at 7.30, grey start but feeling warm and close. The sun duly came out around 10am and it got warmer all the time, with an agreeable SW breeze. By midday we had 24˚C again (still 15˚ by 10pm), which is a real bonus in view of what might yet happen in this R5 period that started today. I’m watching the Bracknell maps closely, comparing them with Piers’ Euro pressure maps; is high pressure going to muscle in from the Atlantic? The present mild spell is like a state of grace before… what? We’ll see. – Ron, interesting observation on the grasses, I’m watching the willow herb, whose seedpods are now turning a beautiful soft red before they open and release their white feathered seeds – that’s when autumn will really be here. Rowan berries really going red now.
On 15 Aug 2013, Ron Greer wrote:
Noticed, when going through the Drumochter pass and heading west to Spean Bridge ( Perthshire-Inverness-shire) , this afternoon, that the hills had started to get their autumnal brown hue ( from the Scirpus and Nardus grass going yellow-brown) already. Seems quite a bit earlier than usual.
On 15 Aug 2013, Craig M (Berks 45d Sub) wrote:
Congratulations on predicting the earth facing coronal hole Piers! It's a mighty one, no wonder we have the first serious seismic uptick since the beginning of the month. ==>> 10th 0427 Paluweh volcano erupts in Indonesia, sadly killing six villagers. 11th dangerous quake in Tibet, reported by USGS as M5.7 but by Chinese as M6.0. Moderate earthquake on Big Island, Hawaii M4.9 (rarely more M3 unless during eruption/pre eruption phases). 12th - M6.0, M6.0 & M6.1. 13th - M6.6 +++ Notable chill in the evening air the past week or so but day times have been pleasant with very usable weather. The grass is green again, lots of growth &flowers all over the garden with the cooler temps (highs slowly dropping from 24-20 and lows from 16 to single figures). Elderberries looking poor which is to be expected as the insects only really started in July. Bees everywhere+a real bumper show of butterflies. Saw 4 types on one Buddleja. Wasps back also. Grrr!
On 14 Aug 2013, Craig M (Berks 45d Sub) wrote:
Noticed this over @WUWT- pertinent to many recent comments here ==>> "2013 sounds like it might well shake down as a year where it substantially cools, especially if the arctic cooling persists. North Carolina had the coolest summer I can remember since back in the late 70s or early 80s — it has rained almost every day over much of the state. Today the high temperature in Durham is going to end up being maybe 77 F. In mid August! I cannot tell you how unusual that is. The high temperature PREDICTED for the rest of the week is 79 F. The low temperature is dropping down to the low 60′s. The Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico are comparatively cool — warm enough for hurricanes, to be sure, but cooler than one might expect in August, and the waters off of the coast of Africa have barely hit 80 F.This is OCTOBER weather, not August weather. It absolutely could warm up to seasonal norms, but every day spent cool still lowers the averages.Interesting times" >> http://bit.ly/1400cCx
On 14 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Still cool today, 9˚C at 7.30, quite cloudy but then brightening up and getting warmer all the time, reaching 24˚C by early afternoon, back down to 13˚ by 10pm. R5 tomorrow, events maybe lagging a day behind? Certainly plenty weather waiting in the Atlantic to move in and over to the east.
On 14 Aug 2013, Russ Derbyshire annual subscriber wrote:
Saskia... I suppose we take for granted what we call 'the main senses': eyesight, hearing, touch. But when we think carefully about smell and taste, things get a bit vague & blurry in both the describing and explaining departments. Maybe magneto'thingybob is a similar sense to that of fear and love and hate. So, like you said, the immediate threat of a thunderstorm might trigger foreboding, whereas the sound of light rain falling on leaves gives a similar, very vague sense of wellbeing. It has to be the subconscious brain doing 90% of the mundane thinking for us, by keeping us relatively safe from harm with plenty of forewarning. The sound of running water is a life saver in a survival situation for instance. You got me thinking again....what do Giraffe's do in a thunderstorm.... now where's that Google button?..... Weather-wise? Sunny-breezy-warm...but I can't wait for the last week of August.... time to buy that forecast people!
On 14 Aug 2013, Steve,Dorset,UK wrote:
Well worth a read .
http://iceagenow.info/2013/08/global-warming-greatest-deception-history-science-climatologist/
Mad politicians saying the kings clothes look great but they are naked but they don't want to see. 17;35 14/8/13
On 14 Aug 2013, steve,Dorset,uk wrote:
On 13 Aug 2013, Jane subs south Wales wrote:
On holiday in S E Spain and it is very different to previous Augusts. Very windy today and has been building all week. Sun is hot but very cool winds. Previous years have seen the middle 2 weeks of August up to 40 degrees with little or no 'air', a bit stifling. Nowhere near that now, feeling much more like September coming early.
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Thanks for the information friends are going out at he end of Aug to stay at our place in SE Spain a bit on the chilly side here in Dorset with a little drizzle falling..17;14 Wednesday
On 14 Aug 2013, Philippe (alsace, subscriber) wrote:
Hi Piers,,
spot on for the weather from 1th to 6th with a good thunderstorm on the 6th so in the R4 period bringing some hail the biggest hailstones around 3 cm. from 7th on it was neither dry, fine and warm, nor hot, but cloudy and rather cool, with a layer of cumulus or stratocumulus at best.
cheers
On 13 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
One degree warmer than yesterday overnight at 9˚C, really cool NW breeze, shower clouds all day, but actual showers only in afternoon, mostly light and short. Cool morning but the afternoon got up to 20˚C, most agreeable. Back in March under SLAT8c, Piers expected an exceptionally cold & wet August, with three cold cyclonic periods; this was changed in July to a warm period after the beginning, which he then corrected under SLAT9a as not so warm; until now we’ve actually had what I would say is typical August weather, speaking from 40 year’s experience of living up here. It’s great to see that a) Piers always states clearly when he is in error, b) that there is still unpredictability in the weather, and that therefore c) the insane parasites who try to modify the weather are nowhere near it on any scale. – Gill, that’s a gem! Just goes to show that mediocrity rules ok; just because someone is on t’telly doesn’t mean they know what they’re talking about.
On 13 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
[cont] - to birds and other animals in that we, too, can actually sense the earth's magnetism and changes in its field? I actually think so. I think it's possible that feelings of foreboding or 'premonitions' could actually be explained in part if this was the case. Like the hairs on your arms or neck standing up when a thunderstorm is nearby. And why would this be impossible, after all, we're all - by our physical composition - a part of the earth. Oh and I'm not trying to veer off the scientific path here. What I'm talking about is a form of 'magnetoception' (X-men beware! :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoception
On 13 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
Saw the most gorgeous meteors late last night, just before those [censored] clouds popped up again and hid it all from view. Streaking right through the Big Dipper and Milky Way, which - usually - can be seen crystal clear in these parts. @Russ - Magnetism, such a strange phenomenon. I actually have an ultrasound picture of my daughter, then 4 months along, on her back, mouth wide open and arms stretched out, pushing against the exact (!) spot where the midwife's ultrasound device was positioned. And she did this every time, making the midwife literally chase her around my belly. According to the latter this happened more often. Now, how do those babies perceive magnetism? And how is it that some people (like myself) can feel radiation generated during radiography? Personally, I have no problems pointing out North or South, except when in the city. I can't use mobile phones either, as they give me headaches. Wifi is a big no-no in our household as well. Are we perhaps similar [cont]
On 13 Aug 2013, BLACK PEARL wrote:
Ooopps scrap that last comment its just started working again
On 13 Aug 2013, BLACK PEARL wrote:
Whats happened to the Climate Realists Twitter link
Not working & missing my daily fix ?
On 13 Aug 2013, Andy B 45D Farmer sub SE Wales wrote:
Could all farmer members and all the CO2 experts join me on Twitter at @AgrichatUK on Thursday night at 8pm where the discussion is about the effect on farming of carbon and CO2. We need to educate more farmers on the benefits of more CO2
On 13 Aug 2013, Jane subs south Wales wrote:
On holiday in S E Spain and it is very different to previous Augusts. Very windy today and has been building all week. Sun is hot but very cool winds. Previous years have seen the middle 2 weeks of August up to 40 degrees with little or no 'air', a bit stifling. Nowhere near that now, feeling much more like September coming early.
On 13 Aug 2013, Gill 1066 country- East Sussex Subscriber wrote:
BBC Breakfast TV today. Slot talking about the meteor shower. Presenter Louise Minchin to guest; 'You're an amateur astrologist'........
On 12 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Ouch, 8˚C at 7.30 is bloomin’ cold when you’ve been used to 25˚+! Along with a good NW wind. Stayed dry all morning, but dark shower clouds could be seen building all around and releasing their cargo from midday onwards. We were lucky, we only had one really beefy shower around 5pm, no indoor alternative occupation was needed. Max temp was only 18˚C but still nice and warm in the not infrequent sunshine, by 9.30pm we were down to 10˚C again. – Saskia: if these are winter geese then we better have our thermal underwear at the ready, pretty remarkable! So R5 on the 15th could be another bullseye for Piers, while MO is forecasting SW gentle breeze & 19˚C. – Meant to say that last week we had great number of small tortoisshell butterflies on the thistles which are in full bloom , as if they were making up for their lack of presence earlier.
On 12 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Possible that the answer has already been found. Trying to understand a "magnetic sense" is the next hurdle. Do the trout see it, smell it, feel it, hear it? >> http://www.livescience.com/21473-source-animal-magnetic-sense.html << ............. And for anyone interested in a slightly deeper magnetic news item (albeit 2009) I hope you find this as fascinating as I did.... >> http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2009/jun/14/earths-magnetic-field-perturbed-by-electric-oceans-claims-researcher <<
On 12 Aug 2013, Piers_Corbyn (twitter) WA Forecaster wrote:
MAGNETIC COMMS ALL THANKS == YES (PAUL, Beds) I am indeed saying the 'peculiar behavior' of many animals preceding quakes is a magnetic activity detection but WHAT they are detecting might not be obvious to man's still cumbersome devices. A quake warning method could be watching animals by TV cams or tracking devices attached to animals + birds or of course certain pets might help == RUSS yes No heatwave now and NOTE ALL we changed 45d SLAT8c 'heatwave' to 30d SLAT 9A No heatwave 10-14th, and showed more stuff - thunder poss - Scotland on map but rain graph not updated; is pleasing advance. Sept application of 9A bends stick further and it AWAITS all (Ad!!) == QUAKES John B YES RTQ forecast (quick ad to others - only $10 now for Aug) it is just hours after QV4 9-11 utc (in parallel with R2 only weather) and in QV3 12-14 == LARGE CORONAL HOLE vis now 12th (and some active regions) RUSS yes but effect sooner than a week R5 (and JSX) and QV5 starts 15th. Timing looks good. Ta PC
On 12 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Very large coronal burp on the sun approaching. Should liven things up in a week or so.
On 12 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Weather-wise...well it's no heatwave, and walking yesterday the hairs stood up on my forearms and my hands felt stiff and numb. Drizzle yesterday a.m. and this morning but the wind is very strong this afternoon. The wind this morning was flippin freezing. Never mind cool, this was a cold 'autumnal'(?) wind. Now the wind has strengthened with clouds racing across the sky, it certainly appears more like late September than early August. I must say that the cold wind at 1200ft elevation yesterday disappeared in the valleys at only 400ft where the sun felt hot in the very clear air, as it does today. In the cold, dull, drizzle and wind at 8am this morning it felt like winter...my fault for walking with just a thick cotton shirt and a brolly to protect my top half. Good job I took the brolly because the wind driven drizzle and at one point light rain, were managing to penetrate the tree cover. Sheep were hiding behind walls..yep..that cold and horrible!
On 12 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
I saw a programme which showed a sharks view of the seabed as magnetic field 'lines'. This misleads people, who then think that magnetism only exists as lines in space. The lines should be interpreted in a similar way to the contour lines on a map, showing land at different heights. The magnetic field 'lines' simply show how the field strength varies from one zone to another. The closer the lines, the stronger the field. They also show the path of electrical energy (which the mainstream deny can exist in space). So the shark does follow these lines of field strength but how it senses them is a mystery, although I do prefer the colour map I mentioned in my last post. Does a bird, with it's superb eyesight, see a similar colour map. Maybe colour is saturated or enhanced in some other way. Kestrels can see a mouses urine because it reflects ultraviolet light. How it actually sees this effect is unknown but this ability to see ultraviolet light is also known in bees.
On 12 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Saskia, Piers, many migratory birds must have this same ability such as the albatross , pigeon, goose etc but many small long distance migrators have been monitored following landmarks such as swallows. They take several weeks to fly from South Africa to Britain but find their way back to exact nest sites year after year. The larger birds, goose, pigeon etc seem to use a different method for the quick blast from one country to another (can't remember landmarks they've never seen before), but then rely on local landmarks to find their loft/home. Sharks have been found to find their way around in the deeper dark ocean by reading a magnetic map of the seabed. Our retinal cells send electrical signals to our sight receptor cells in the brain which interprets them as a picture. The shark probably sees magnetism as some sort of visual coloured overlay relating to magnetic field strength, in the same way satellites see the earth's field strength.
On 12 Aug 2013, John B wrote:
Hi Piers,
The USGS earthquake website has just reported three magnitue 6.0+ earthquakes over a very short period of time. Here are the details:
Mag: 6.0
Place: 189km WNW of Saumlaki, Indonesia
Time: 2013-08-12 01:53:43 UTC+01:00
Depth: 92.0km
Mag: 6.0
Place: 112km NW of L'Esperance Rock, New Zealand
Time: 2013-08-12 05:16:46 UTC+01:00
Depth: 325.2km
Mag: 6.2
Place: 94km WSW of Paita, Peru
Time: 2013-08-12 10:49:33 UTC+01:00
Depth: 16.7km
I don't have the details at hand, but are we in a high QV period?
On 12 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
[cont.] this perceived early onset of Autumn is a result per sé. I do think the early arrival itself can be directly linked to the sun's activities, but then Piers has already firmly established that fact :-)
@PIERS, Paul et al - What has been quite interesting is that my partner and I noticed strange behaviour in pidgeons several weeks ago. We saw 3 of them in one day just "resting on the ground" as if they were either exhausted or "thrown off balance". Studies have shown pidgeons to be both extremely sensitive to magnetism and actually following roads to find their way back home. But sensitivity to earth's magnetic field has already been established, see https://tinyurl.com/k3ofo7b
On 12 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
We have had positive DELUGES here the past few days, although they haven't lasted longer than an hour or so. Intermittent rain as well. Although in first instance the rain itself was warmish, it is becoming colder and colder, as if the air is indeed cooling down quite quickly.
@Paddy - yup, geese! Even though we seem to have so many of them staying over for Summer that the Dutch government has deemed it necessary to gas them by the thousands (sad, but true) there are also geese that fly in for the winter. And those have started arriving VERY early! It is always pretty easy to spot the difference between the "locals" and "newcomers" so I can confidently state that this sighting concerns winter guests.
@Russ - Although I concur with your observation that the (southern) polar shift of the sun undoubtedly has an influence on our general "feeling of well-being" - many people, for example, were suffering from unexplained headaches last week - I don't think [continued]
On 11 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Decidedly cooler today, 10˚C overnight, WNW breeze, occasional showers here but we could see plenty coming down all around in select locations. In sun and shower clouds the temp nevertheless got up to 22˚C and it was only by 6pm that we got some really beefy rain. By 9pm it was back to 10˚, so you could say that is autumnal, but the real stuff isn’t here yet. There are of course all the different plants that accompany the seasons which are indicators of where we’re at without looking at the calendar, such as when the rowan berries start turning from green to orange and then red, which is beginning to happen now. As for geese, we don’t have any living here during the summer, so even if you see just a few flying by you know that autumn is here; this may be different in the Netherlands and in PA? In the winter, many stay in the NE and constantly fly N & S to and from their various feeding grounds; farmers aren’t so fond of them because they eat a lot of grass, especial
On 11 Aug 2013, Steve Devine (Sub) Waltham Abbey wrote:
A pleasantly sunny, albeit breezy afternoon here in Waltham Abbey. Have just read through Piers' 55d Sept forecast and it's well worth a look, especially for those intending to travel next month. I'll say no more.
We seem to have another week of warm weather (I didn't say dry) ahead of us at least. Beyond that...subscribe!
On 11 Aug 2013, jje wrote:
Just came across my first enlightenment of sunspots and weather .
Phil Bull writing in Computer Timefigures review of the 1979 Flat racing season said.
As to the unsettled weather ,this is a concomitant of an eleven year cycle of sunspot activity which will peak in 1980 .
jje
On 11 Aug 2013, Paul, Bedfordshire (Subscriber) wrote:
Piers, do you think that the well documented peculiar behaviour of birds and animals immediately before an earthquake is down to magnetic disturbances. If so it ought to be fairly simple to make a device to set off an alarm?
If I ever go on holiday to somwhere prone to earthquakes, I certainly won't be going any time near the solar maximum or when you are forecasting Rx.
On 11 Aug 2013, Piers_Corbyn (twitter) WA Forecaster wrote:
ALL GREAT COMMS == RUSS, PADDY Magnetism - solar and Earth is indeed very important both for solar effects and what birds do re migratory guidance. That being the case birds could also detect solar and pre-earthquake driven changes in the Earth's magnetic field which could be signals for 'time to go' etc. It would be interesting to find out if geese have a more sensitive magnetic guidance than other birds. Note re seasons the increased magnetic activity around equinoxes is probably a stronger signal than the 'day & night are about equal in duration' signal which comes along somewhat slowly. == ALL!! SEE SEPTEMBER IS OUT and we have HALF PRICE AUGUST NOW deals. Please promote these - and, not yet subscribing readers, do have a go, we might not return to such offers for a while. The costs are tiny and you can share with friends - but not circulate to public. Thank you, Piers
On 11 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Geese! No I haven't noticed any but I think that what people are noticing is the effects of a good summer, as Paddy is pointing out. Young goose numbers will be up because cold, wet weather kills millions of birds. Even young sea birds are susceptible. If you saw a handful of geese, maybe not particularly vociferous, you wouldn't register them, but if you see much higher numbers, then you would automatically associate this with autumn migration. What you are seeing is local migration but higher numbers than usual. Many water birds fly 10 to 50 miles a day to get to their favourite feeding grounds, but always return to either breeding grounds or safe water courses such as lakes or reservoirs at night. As soon as the young can fly well enough, the parents will show them where all the best food is, hence the local migration of hundreds of birds a day, in a good year, when numbers are up......... Been dry but cloudy at times with a chilly breeze in Derbysheepshire.
On 10 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Overnight low of 11˚C, cloudy most of the day, but with glimpses of the sun and warm, up to 23˚C, winds variable, mostly S & W. – That’s two people seeing geese now – if we see any here before end September I’ll be really alarmed! I notice from my notes that I mentioned the word ‘autumnal’ on the 4th already but since then we have been remarking that the summer feels like it has lasted for a long time, all crops are looking well, we haven’t had it so good in years. We’ve actually had a summer instead of going straight from spring to autumn. I can’t say that I have any strange feelings, it’s just different from the usual, perhaps also because we’re all paying a lot more attention to the weather than we used to and egging each other on. Interesting times, for sure.
On 10 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23646467 << When paradise turns into hell! No particularly large or direct facing coronal holes, but there were several erupting filaments on the sun on the 6th & 7th. So not solar wind or CME powered but probably triggered by the sudden magnetic shock when the filaments exploded. I like to think of it like a taught guitar string stretching from the Sun to the Earth. When a filament or CME explodes there is an immediate magnetic wave sent along the string initially at relativistic speeds giving the Earth an initial shock after only a few hours, but this is followed by a succession of after shocks over several days as the magnetic field wobbles and settles back down to a more stable state. Moving magnetic flux like this will drive electrical energy through many types of matter, especially magma just under the Earth's surface, probably heating it considerably.
On 10 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Re trees looking golden already. I've noticed this too, but on closer inspection the brown colouring was disease....... The strange feelings people are getting are probably due to the changing magnetic field of the Sun. Another month or two and it's field will flip. No, the end of the world isn't what happens next, but it's bound to have a significant effect on the Earth's magnetic field, seeing as they are both part of the same field. They don't exist separately like two crops in the same field. Neither do they overlap like folds in a prom dress. They blend together, adding, strengthening in some zones, and weakening and dissolving in others, but they are inextricably connected, as NASA found out late in 2008..The human brain must be able, subconsciously of course, to notice subtle changes in the Earth's field and react instinctively, maybe triggering a seemingly unwarranted feeling of impending doom is sufficient to make us collect more fire wood for the coming winter. Old knowledge.
On 10 Aug 2013, Paul, Bedfordshire (Subscriber) wrote:
Its certainly bone dry here, and humid, as forecast, with at least another week of this now in the mainstream forecasts. But the temperatures are just not rising above the low 20's, despite the air being warm and humid. Anyone know why?
On 10 Aug 2013, Jo wrote:
Noticed you folks talking about an early fall feeling. Same here in the SE US. Last week while up in PA visiting friends a whole flock of Canadian geese flew overhead one evening. That seems very early to me. Geese flying south and it being hardly August?
On 09 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Today started sunny and promising, but by 9am the rain started and went off and on until about 11. There was a sunny spell but by early afternoon it started tipping it down in several long lasting showers, producing a deafening roar while I was working in one of our tunnels. Winds mostly NNW & fresh, temps 14˚C overnight but still getting up to 22˚. – Interesting comments about how the weather feels. For us here I wouldn’t say it is autumnal as such yet except in the mornings, with temps like today and yesterday it still feels like summer; of course, we are used to colder temps than down south so anything above 15˚C feels like a bonus! Saskia: what, geese already? Here they tend to arrive when the swallows leave, around 3rd week of Sept, then we know that autumn has arrived. Gill: I have seen grass frost on 31st Aug, high pressure, still & cold nights & brilliant days. Winter barley harvest going on here now.
On 09 Aug 2013, JohnE wrote:
That's exactly what I think and that it may be rather insidious but there has been a subtle change this last week or so. We have had some hot temperatures up here in the north but not as consistently hot as the south so the change is not so marked. The air even smells different. Is that possible
On 09 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
I concur with the feeling of Autumn creeping up. As a matter of fact, I've had that feeling for the past few years. Of course we've been spoilt by the warm weather, but still there's a chill which starts in the late afternoon and becomes very noticeable in the evening. We'll just have to see how or what, but the cats & dogs are starting to suddenly eat both more frequently and more of it, their coast are filling in, and as of last week the migratory geese have started showing up. All in all these seem to be signs of an early onset of winter. I wonder ...
On 09 Aug 2013, Gill 1066 country- East Sussex Subscriber wrote:
I would say there isn't a feel of autumn in the year yet; it is just that we were spoilt by high temps last month and hours of sunshine, and therefore anything less now feels like a let down and the end of summer. It feels at the moment like a warm summer ( which cannot be that unusual) as opposed to a hot one. Yes there is a lot of dew every morning and it is cooler, but that is how August can behave unless like last year it pours with rain. By the end of the month it is not unusual to have really cold night temperatures down here on a clear night. I remember a clear viewing night at the Herstmonceux observatory in August a few years ago, I was wrapped in blankets it was so cold; in the end I told my son we were going home I couldn't cope anymore. Harvest is just about to start here, so we could do with autumn staying well away.
On 09 Aug 2013, JohnE wrote:
Well I'm pleased that its not just me. I was beginning to wonder if I had been a pine cone in a previous life and that I was reacting to the change in temperature and moisture in the air
On 09 Aug 2013, Gerry, N Downs 600ft 45d wrote:
Emily, I wouldn't worry about warmist lies appearring in the loss-making Guardian - hardly anybody reads it apart from BBC employees. Attempting informed debate on their forums is pointless and a waste of time.
On 09 Aug 2013, Steve,Dorset,UK wrote:
The mornings and over night seem very cool at the present it has been quite warm here but not a heatwave none the less very nice.
Piers was right about the weather warming up though to the day, so far so good.
On 09 Aug 2013, steve ilyes wrote:
I also have noticed a rather autumnal feel to the weather. although the the summer greens seem normal. its the dew and the air that feels more like autumn. also the nights appear to be much cooler now. I live in West Sussex, somewhat warmer than the north,but there is certainly a feel that we are heading for early start to autumn.
On 09 Aug 2013, Clive wrote:
There doesn't seem to be a return of any very warm weather in the forecast for the foreseeable future and no new attempt for the Azores high to encroach the country the way it did in July. August again seems to be a month that is likely to be more unsettled than the previous two. We had a very warm and settled June in 2010 and a very warm July in 2013 but not in this decade yet have we had a very warm settled August nationwide. Although there is high pressure to the south west of the UK and there is still every chance that this may make its way to the UK sometime in the future.
On 09 Aug 2013, JohnE wrote:
Does anyone else think that the weather feels a little autumnal? If the leaves on the trees were showing some shades of brown then I would have said that autum was arriving. My grass growing has slowed but then it never really got going and there is just a hint of sort of dewy (??) moisture in the air
I am in the north west just above Manchester and maybe I am wrong but somehow it doesnt feel right. Not scientific but then I am not a scientist.
On 09 Aug 2013, Michael wrote:
Yamanashi, Japan Elev 850mtr
Well thought I would give an update as to how the weather has been here in the land of the rising sun.
In a word HOT!!! 38.7oC in the lower areas of my prefecture, even over 30oC up here in the mountains!
There have been many days of 35-38oC in fact been well above average all of July and this month so far except for one cool day.
Looks like it will continue for a few more weeks yet. Crazy hot this year. Could this be the hot before the crazy cold? IUsually if Japan has a hot dry summer it is followed by a very cold winter, well this year has been mad hot, so maybe a mad cold winter? I hope so! Will update again as things cool!
On 08 Aug 2013, Andy B 45D Farmer sub SE Wales wrote:
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Next week's #AgrichatUK: "Low carbon farming- how & why?" with guest Sam Adams, the Soil Association's low carbon farming project manager.
On 08 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Overnight temp 12˚C, misty start but sunny by 7, sunny all day with variable amounts of cloud, no rain until 7pm, max temp a respectable 25˚C. – Saw a huge number of butterflies today, mostly small tortoiseshells and a few cabbage whites on the thistles which are now in full bloom, a heart-warming sight. There have also been huge numbers of ringlets and gatekeepers, little brown butterflies, in wild grass and moor land this summer. Another thing I noticed is that some of the larch trees which were affected last year by whatever that die-back disease was last year have recovered this year. It seems that there is always one or other tree species that suffers from some disease in any year, recovery can be good, patchy or non-existent, as in Dutch Elm Disease or Ash Die-Back.
On 08 Aug 2013, Chris H (subscriber) wrote:
Thought that people might be interested in this blog ; http://climatecontrarian.blogspot.co.uk/?view=magazine
On 08 Aug 2013, Andy B 45D Farmer sub SE Wales wrote:
Spanish to tax solar energy
http://www.metalbulletin.com/Article/3238526/Base-metals/HOTLINE-Spain-taxes-the-sun-Seriously.html
On 08 Aug 2013, Piers_Corbyn (twitter address) wrote:
THANKS ALL == Well informed as always == SUE, EMILY Yes posting those matters is great, thanks == Lorraine L NZ Thanks for that link. Indeed the article is mentally deficient. This and the Guardian and so it goes on, show how total is the warmist failure and how totally committed they are to lie all the way to the bank. There is still a hard road ahead. == ALL I hope people like the new 2 page RTQ forecast - Comms welcome. == WEATHER NEWS (prob also for next blog) is the significance of the Cut Off high that has come B+I - AS WE PREDICTED. Less warm than we wanted maybe but the point is it is here. LAST, SEE THE NEW PART MONTH HALF PRICE offer above. Please anyone you know potentially interested let them know and get them to subscribe. Thanks, Piers
On 08 Aug 2013, Sue (subscriber) wrote:
I hope Piers doesn't mind me mentioning a wonderful book for all us AGW non believers...these guys have really put their careers on the line to show people that us humans have no effect on our climate whatsoever and our Sun calls all the shots, something Piers has been preaching for a long time now.
The Neglected Sun: Why the Sun Precludes Climate Catastrophe
By (author) Fritz Vahrenholt, By (author) Sebastian Lüning
On 08 Aug 2013, Rhys Jaggar wrote:
Emily
The Guardian website could teach Pravda lessons about politically correct censorship. What gets cut is invariably because of its opinions, not the tone, tenor or language used.
The following opinions are unacceptable:
1. Climate change is not dangerous, is not totally man-made, is not due to carbon dioxide or methane.
2. University researchers have ulterior motives, primarily concerning the securing of grant income.
3. Women can be as sexist as men, as predatory at work as men and as perjorative of male sexuality as men can be about female sexuality.
4. Feminists can be sexist.
5. The Guardian website is sexist as it will not ever run stories about female sexism against men, whilst constantly printing stories about wronged 'women'.
6. Small businesses should not be held to account in the same way as big corporations, particularly where pay is concerned.
7. A small business owner should put the survival of their business ahead of the family planning agenda of their
On 08 Aug 2013, Emily Quilty wrote:
I am very sorry to be trying to post here - I understand that this is not directly relevant to your discussion. However, I am a subscriber to Piers' brilliant forecasts and I am a climate realist. I want to share an experience that I have just had involving the Guardian website. I am sure some of you saw the ridiculously non-scientific front page article in yesterday's Guardian ascribing the death of one old polar (with a grim full colour picture of its carcass) to climate change. I left what I thought was a well-balanced, non-confrontational comment last night only to find that it (along with a good number of other readers' comments) had been deleted by moderators for non-compliance with their "community standards". It seems to me that they are cherry-picking the comments that they permit to their own ends in order to shape the public's perception of anybody who challenges the current paradigm - shocking misrepresentation. But good to have first hand experience of routine corruption!
On 08 Aug 2013, Gill 1066 East Sussex - subscriber wrote:
Nice warm sunny morning; but no sight of a heatwave / hot weather returning in the short term. By that I mean 25 c and upwards. The trees are still green and in good leaf form everywhere. Normally they are turning dull, with a shrivelled look and brown in some cases and look parched; not this year, (or last).
On 07 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Overnight temp 10˚C, glimpse of the sun very early, then overcast but temp rose to 22˚ before noon nevertheless. Hardly any wind to speak of, saw from the radar that the big wodge of rain that came from the west just missed us as it travelled slowly NE-wards in the morning. But by 6pm we got some rain which lasted until around 9pm off and on, 14˚C by 10pm.
On 07 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
What irritates me the most about this GW stuff is the fact that sustainability is now being firmly linked with the GW cause. Trying to find alternatives for (finite) fossile fuel in itself is a smart thing to do. After all, population is booming (although I have a sneaking suspicion that Mother Nature will find a way to try and rid herself of 'those pesky critters') and former 'under' developed countries are really doing well playing catch-up with the Western world. But these facts should be considered by themselves, for the right reasons. Because these days many people are either catching on to, or at least getting heartily sick from the GW hype. And in their minds the search for alternative and sustainable energy sources is inextricably linked to GW. Both sides are doing this btw. The *cough* goat-woolen-socks-and-slipper types that are on to a good thing (care for the environment) but have gone waaayyy overboard with it also use the GW to further their cause. And I think it's wrong.
On 07 Aug 2013, Paul Bedfordshire (Subscriber) wrote:
Its dry, sunny, sticky nights, it feels like it should be warm but its not warm (max 22.5 today) and there is a north wind and whiff of autumn in the air if you get out of the sun. Its like the sun has lost some of its power....
On 07 Aug 2013, Rob wrote:
Seems like various news outlets are trying to ramp up interest in AGW. Photo on front page of today's Guardian of a dead polar bear with the headline "killed by global warming?" The Independent carries a story about hedge fund managers calling for more investment in the green economy to counter global warming which their representative says is already here citing super storm sandy as clear evidence.
On 07 Aug 2013, BLACK PEARL wrote:
On 07 Aug 2013, Mike Gauntlett wrote:
. " Whose money is funding these people to carry out such "research"???
#######
Ours unfortuneatly
Just like our licence fee pays towards the BBC propaganda machine.
What a great system they've created
No matter how much opinion / counter evidence there is, Govts just discount it as they all need Carbon Tax.
Obama is envious of the EU Carbon taxes now rallying his paid minions cos he wants a slice
Will watch Australia with interest if the other party gets in as they say they will abolish all the Climate Quangos...... nice one if it happens
On 07 Aug 2013, Mike Gauntlett wrote:
"The world is set to become more violent as global temperatures rise, with scientists warning this could lead to a "collapse in civilisation"."
See http://www.edie.net/news/5/Climate-change-strongly-linked-to-rising-violence--scientists-say-/?utm_source=weeklynewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=news&utm_campaign=weeklynewsletter
"A separate research paper in Science warns that global average temperatures could increase by 2°C between 2046 and 2065, and by 4°C between 2081 and 2100. "
Whose money is funding these people to carry out such "research"???
On 06 Aug 2013, Lorraine Lister wrote:
This article titled Range of Climate Records Broken is warmist garbage at its worst http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10909078 They must be getting desperate to put out rubbish like this.
On 06 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Chilly feel this morning at 10˚C (of course, in January one would consider that to be mild), N wind blowing, changing to the usual S sea breeze by 10.30. It was really very sunny today, with some clouds, and the highest temp was 21˚C around and after midday. In exposed parts of the farm it was cooler, not to say blooming cold when working in shorts and tee shirt in the full wind. This is the trouble with living near the coast, it’s a good job we planted so many trees and hedges over the years which are now giving us good shelter. Our lime tree is in full blossom now and absolutely covered in bumble bees; there are still elder flowers, not that many berries but much more than last year. Barley changing colour all the time now.
On 06 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
@Russ ... Your ground behind the house does indeed sound perfect for the project :-) Keep in mind though that the evaporation is also initiated by the tube going deeper into the ground and hitting colder earth, hence the 40cm difference between inlet and outlet. If the tube remains at the same depth, despite sloping down towards the house, I'm not sure you'd produce any or sufficient evaporation. It should work without a problem for just the airconditioning though ...
On 06 Aug 2013, paul wrote:
I read that the sun is going to have a magnetic field reversal in the next 3-4 months. What effect could this have on the earth. Could it make the earth warmer or cooler temporarily and more stormy?
On 06 Aug 2013, Gill 1066 East Sussex - subscriber wrote:
Where's the hot weather?
On 06 Aug 2013, Clive wrote:
Invisible force-fields caused our heatwave in July according the the BBC weather. Have you seen this article? www.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/23557392
On 06 Aug 2013, Russ 45day Derbyshire subs wrote:
Quote: "Do the contrails prevent cumonimbuluses reaching critical mass?"..... Ooh! Aah! Ey up! You might have something there dude! I have thought the same thing myself!
On 05 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
In spite of a cool start, 11˚C min overnight, and cloudy skies all day it was nevertheless quite muggy and got to 21˚. The huge amount of rain that travelled SW to NE bypassed us almost completely, just a few drops around 11am, so it was possible to work outside all day. Further S and W got a fair drooking though, judging from the radar.
On 05 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
We have a rear garden that slopes up away from the house. It's well drained as we have proven after heavy rains where properties 150m away were flooded but we were fine. Built away from natural land drains I suppose. There's 60ft / 18m of mown grass. Too steep to call it a lawn or use it as such without danger to life & limb. But it should be perfect to construct some sort of underground pipework for this project. We could run several pipes down the "hill" to the house. The sun, even on a hot day won't matter too much as the slope faces NW.
On 05 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
@Russ ... With regard to the 'airconditioning' link I sent you: with a few tweeks an almost identical set-up could provide both cool (fresh) air AND fresh potable water :-) The tube should be at east 10m long, start at somewhere around 60cm deep and slant downwards to a depth of 1m. As the warm inlet air cools down it produces condensation, which runs down along the tube. If, instead of a small opening into the earth for run-off water, you construct a catch basin (could be as simple as a bucket you retrieve through a hatch, or something similar) you get to collect pure potable water. Always handy in an emergency :-) Just make sure the inlet opening is constructed in such a manner that insects, dirt etc cannot enter the tube. The tube itself should be toxins-free of course. Idea?
On 05 Aug 2013, Paul (Bedfordshire) Subscriber wrote:
Where has the thunder gone. In the last century you would always get one or two cracking thunderstorms in a summer, with lightning and crashes of thunder every few second, plus shorter less intense storms in autumn and spring. Now, we might get one or two mild storms with a few claps of thunder and long intervals between per year but that is it? What has changed? Do the contrails prevent cumonimbuluses reaching critical mass?
On 05 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Saskia.... first thought on the temperatures you found in the shade. My mentioning black body radiation got me thinking about the difference in shade between shaded tarmac/concrete and shaded grazed short grass. A thermometer out in a sunny place with hardly any shade I found to be 5C warmer than the same thermometer in deep shade but still outdoors. This was on heather moorland. I have seen a 1C difference at my mothers home which is surrounded by tarmac and concrete except on one side where there are massive Beech trees. The 1C was noted when the breeze was blowing straight off the road. She has a weather machine with an outside sensor positioned on a small shaded border, and 5C difference is more common when the breeze flows under the trees. ... The evaporation effect on the air under the trees must make a big difference as you say.... Your link showing ventilation system is very interesting, I see an air-conditioning project in the near future....
On 05 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Saskia... I do understand the logic behind the CO2 and kettle analogy, but you could analyse everything in the same way. If you take 10,000 athletes in the UK Olympic Games for instance and work out their direct effect on heating the biosphere, then that could be used as BBC plopaganda too. Each human emits roughly 50 to 100W of heat constantly. Much more when working hard like an athlete when training. So just sitting around chilling or strolling around, those 10,000 athletes will be emitting 170,000 BTU/hr minimum, all the time. Add in all the crowds of spectators and the heating effect is huge, far more than a trace gas could possibly achieve, even if it could 'trap' heat like a virtual blanket. All those people exhale lots of CO2 and radiate their heat at ground level too! So you see Saskia, you could dream up a perfectly plausible and scary piece of bull plopaganda yourself, say using the black body radiation of metal cars to make the 'mentalists squirm, it's dead easy!
On 05 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
[cont.] - As far as the effects of humidity are concerned in combatting heat; during summertime, when the day was expected to become very hot, I would use the garden hose and spray the sides of the house early in the morning because the effect of the water evaporating in the sun would help cool down the house. And the construction method you seem to refer to is what is called 'straw bale construction' where the walls are made of a wooden frame (load bearing) and then filled-in with straw bales, producing a solid, thick insulating wall which does a lot towards maintaning a stable climate inside. The outside will then be rendered with lime. Of course, as lime is susceptible to rain etc, the roof needs a fairly large overhang to protect the lime from becoming saturated, which wuld destroy it in the end. An alternative which more and more are starting to use is so-called 'hemp crete'. You might be interested in producing some CO2 and Google the term :-)
On 05 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
@Russ ... the fact that searching via Google or simply using a pc produces CO2 seems logical. After all, network servers etc. are purposely situated in "coooler rooms" as they produce A LOT of heat. As I have tried explaining to my son, whose room is very small; in winter he nees run the little heater he has far less if he actively uses his pc, while in summer the same usage will turn his room into an unbearably hot cubicle. Same goes for the 'old fashioned' light bulbs. As anybody having switched to either LEDs or (God forbid) mercury laden energy efficient lights will have noticed, the old bulbs not only produced a healthier light spectrum but also contributed to heating a room. And although LEDs give better value for money, and are better for the environment, they'll never be able to compete with the cozy atmosphere at my grandparents during winter, with the curtains closed, dinner on the table and a large standing lamp producing a warm amber light. But I digress ... [continued]
On 04 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Saskia....I know what you mean about the intensity of the sun. Some days it really does feel like it's hotter and brighter. I can only put it down to the lack of contrails. For several years now, almost every day of the year that has blue sky, has it smeared over with jet contrails so the sun is weakened. I have sat with the sun on my back through a crystal clear sky at 9am, and by 10am the sun has noticeably weakened as the contrails spread across the sky. They really do act like a thin cloud layer, especially as they start to form real clouds later in the day. Since the Queens Jubilee there haven't been any really bad contrail days. Most days with a clear blue sky stay that way.....not that I'm complaining.
On 04 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Perceptibly cooler today, dare I say it, a whiff of autumn in the air. Only 10˚C overnight, warmed up to 25˚ though by afternoon. Still a good W breeze and whenever clouds covered the sun it got quite a bit cooler. Judging from other comments, that seems to be the way this year, there’s always an undertow of cool or cold lurking somewhere. MO forecasting winds from a N’ly quarter tomorrow, in line with Piers.
On 04 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Anyone who likes lightning storms should love this >>> http://youtu.be/3FpjcOWwiI4 <<<
On 04 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Closing our windows and curtains in full sun just makes that particular room warm. If the curtains are shut but the window is left open, the room is cooler. Just a matter of preventing any direct heating from the infra-red component of the sunlight, so heavy lined curtains do a great job....... Saskia, those buildings do have extremely thick walls, something that we ought to be considering over the next 50 years.. A brick or stone outer shell for aesthetics but with straw bales as deep insulation seems a good bet. Lots of youtube vids showing this construction method. ... You have got me wondering about the effects of humidity slowing down heat loss of inanimate objects. Hmmm! Need to ponder that for a while..... Not looked at any links yet, busy day, but try this for the latest "You cannot be serious" effect.. >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/4217055/Two-Google-searches-produce-same-CO2-as-boiling-a-kettle.html <<
On 03 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Very windy day today from the West. One day I’ll get myself a wireless weather station so that I get more precise and hopefully reliable readings. Temps today 12 – 23˚C, sunny day with occasional cloud cover, still very pleasant despite the wind. Now, after 10pm, the wind has calmed down and it is balmy and a little cool at 12˚ again.
On 03 Aug 2013, stephen parker wrote:
Its just summer guys and gals, five weeks and its all over enjoy it
On 03 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
[cont.] -Therefore I think a tree must come into the equation. Maybe it has somethng to do with themoisture they evaporate?
As for the buildings in the countries you mentioned, if I'm not mistaken the walls of such dwellings are much thicker than our Western buildings. Hence they retain the cold stored during night time, as mass absorbs both heat and cold. I'm no expert, but as far as closing the windows AS WELL as the curtains (which prevents the sun from shining inside) it seems to work well for us.
@Craig M - The sun indeed packs a powerful punch! The difference from one minute to the next can be dramatic, and I must say that I feel as if the sun has become 'stronger' somehow. Might be my imagination ...
On 03 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
@Russ ... Keeping dust down is a bit hard here, as we have stone walls and a *cough* somewhat chaotic household. Add all the animals and dust is a constant given here. As for electrical appliances, well, besides a pc, fridge/freezer and tv/gaming set-up we don't really use any. We are, however, thinking about installing a mechanical ventilation set-up, something like this (Dutch) https://tinyurl.com/lck4lpy. It can be used both in winter and summer.
I do concur with your 'shady story' *grin* I feel similar effects every time I walk the dog. He now knows the word "shade" as I have him walking from shaded spot to shaded spot (he ahs a heart condition, so the heat is rough on him) so he can cool down every few minutes. Yet on the other hand, this effect wasn't noticeable when I measured temps outside. I measured in the sun (37 C) and then in a nearby spot where the sun hadn't been all day. Result: temps were only about 2 degrees lower. [continued]
On 03 Aug 2013, Craig M (Berks 45d Sub) wrote:
Russ regarding that glacier study. First thought was the lubrication at base of glacier would melt/remelt affect rock (I.e. freeze opens cracks etc). Then we have to factor in they will be using 'settled science' with all the geological assumptions and gaps. May ask Tim Cullen for his thoughts of an alternative. These two posts on S Eng stones such as Stonehenge blue stones are v thought provoking (no glaciers involved or people for that matter). Links >> http://bit.ly/17qDfG3 + http://bit.ly/14qxRIb
On 03 Aug 2013, Craig M (Berks 45d Sub) wrote:
...cont...Noted on Thurs when it hit the 90s again, a cooling breeze in any shade. Found Philip Eden's window technique works well for me but all about timing & outside temps (I.e. opening a window on a cool room doesn't work). Back of our house faces late eve sun & temps rocket even with doors/windows closed (not as bad as open but marginal). A fan by non sun windows works (sucks in cooler air). Ceiling fans are great - a stalwart in colonian days. Having air movement great but depends on humidity. If it's 99degF in shade then you are only moving hot air. Thankfully that affects tropics/Equatorial regions more than us despite the southern whinging last month from me. Recall a day of intense humidity in my youth that soaked me more than the deluge that followed. Light, loose clothing a must - Arabs/Bedouins wear layers. Noted in 90s heatwaves an open shirt can capture air & cool (tight tshirt=sweat) & trap heat if cools in eve
On 03 Aug 2013, Craig M (Berks 45d Sub) wrote:
Rusd saw this comment @WUWT The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley on August 2, 2013 ==>> Here in England we’re getting a great summer. However, when the sun is out it is VERY hot. As soon as the clouds roll in it ‘cools’ down to 24c. I’m 54 years of age, and seen many summers come and go, but I don’t think I’ve ever experienced the change in temperature between cloudless and cloudy skies as much as this year. We have cleaner air now, of course, and maybe that’s why. The last time we had a summer this hot was 2006, and I don’t remember such a marked difference between cloudy and cloudless skies. Anyone got any thoughts as to why – apart from cleaner air (allowing sun’s radiation straight through)? <<== Link >>
http://bit.ly/13Dvjjp << this evening a good example. As I am writing clouds passed over & temps dropped. Sun back out heat back. The warm/humid patch last summer was v cloudy & sticky not cool like now when clouds pass....cont...
On 03 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
WT'..... In the essence of trying to stay sane after reading this, I will refrain from telling you my thoughts, except to say, "What a load of utter b.......!" >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23553094 << Water wears rock much faster than millions of tons of ice? The ice age say's no...! The evidence say's no...!
On 03 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
cont'd..... I'd just like to add that a high efficiency fan such as a ceiling fan will move the ionised air around making the whole cooling system more efficient and chilling a room off very rapidly. Also, the windowless buildings I mentioned are in countries where humidity is rare. Plus, the efficiency of ceiling fans can be seen in India where they are almost a mandatory requirement in most buildings. ..... We had a fantastic lightning display last night Fri 2nd. Some heavy hail showers too, very cool after the showers and chilly up to around 9am Saturday.
On 03 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
cont'd .... So what you feel is a strange sort of barrier of warm wind and cool breeze less than a metre apart. Dead spooky it is, and the more you think about it, the stranger it seems, because the effect is so dramatic. My point? The tree has no windows or doors. It is a completely open room, yet this strange cooling phenomenon still occurs. The importance of windows on hot days can be seen in very hot countries such as Morocco, Egypt, Parts of Mexico for instance where buildings are constructed 'without windows', they just have holes to let in light and fresh air. Humidity moves the goal posts somewhat. So if the sun comes out after a heavy shower, creating steam clouds off the pavement, then closing windows is a better option, because water vapour does hold onto heat and also lowers your bodies cooling ability through perspiration, because your sweat can't evaporate easily into water laden air. So trapping dry air in your home is important, hence my mention of ionisers.
On 03 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
cont'd ...... I always found it fascinating how such a dramatic temperature change can happen 'with the wind' or rather, 'with the air'. How on earth can the temperature change so instantly in just a single metre? But the fact that this occurs and anyone can try it out and observe the results, proves that atmospheric gas 'cannot' hold on to heat, not even for one second, as soon as the sun's energy is prevented from heating the gases. The warmth felt in the sun is because the sun is still applying heat to the air as it wafts along, right up to the point where it touches your skin, where the air molecules dump their excess heat into your skin., while all the while the sun continues to heat it. But as soon as the air molecules drift into the shade, and are no longer being heated, they lose their excess heat instantly and so are much cooler when they hit your skin, so they don't dump their excess heat from the sun directly into your skin. The excess heat is radiated off in all directions
On 03 Aug 2013, Steve Devine (Sub) Waltham Abbey wrote:
Temps back down to 22/23C here in Waltham Abbey today with light showers threatening to reach our corner of SW Essex.
To be honest, I cannot stand the humidity. Give me an ice day with the threat of snow showers and I'm happier than a pig in mud!
After a scorching July (daytime temps averaged 25C here just north of London compared to 19C last year!), what does August hold? Subscribe! I have - you need to see it, especially if you're a farmer or have holiday plans with the family outdoors!
On 03 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Saskia.... The closing of windows technique I tried several times but without success. The only time I have ever known it to surpass open windows is with a long, dark room pointing ENE, so it only got the rising sun, and by 11am the sun was gone for the rest of the day. A large ceiling fan and ioniser made this room so chilly that it felt like you walked into a gigantic fridge, on a very hot day. The windows were kept shut but not the rest of the house. Scenario: You walk up a slight gradient on a sunny day at 28C. You are damp with sweat and ready for a rest but you don't feel like staying in the sun, so seek out some shade. Close by is a large tree casting a dark shadow perhaps 10m across. As you walk into the shadow, the temperature drop is dramatic, yet seconds before, there was a very warm wind blowing across the grassland, but under the tree the air feels much cooler, so much so, that when you step back into the sun, the warm breeze feels even warmer than it did before! cont'd
On 03 Aug 2013, Matthew Bradshaw wrote:
Don't know about climate change making people want to hit each other. But the LIA will make people angry
If the crops don't grow and there is no food to eat prices going up. I see the Antarctic is braking daily records for ice extent and the Arctic to date had coldest summer on satellite data. Why does this not make the news??? It's good to see The BBC and others are un-bias lol. People need to say these facts at every opportunity the media pray on the people who don't know the facts and repeat the same old rubbish. Throw enough shit some sticks.
On 02 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Foggy start but it cleared by 7am and the sun shone all day. Overnight min temp was 15˚C and it reached 23˚ by midday. However, the agreeable S breeze turned ever more blustery after lunchtime and became half a gale by the afternoon (how impressive is that for exactitude?). We haven’t had such strong wind for quite a while and the tattie shaws (potato haulms) which had been looking so lush and upright have been knocked about and now look dishevelled. But it has nevertheless been a pleasant day after yesterday’s rain & fog. I don’t mind if that Low out west doesn’t budge eastwards, the longer the N’lies are held off the better :-)
On 02 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
Temps ended up reaching over 38 Celsius in the sun and 35 C in the shade. All the while the KNMI said it was just 28 Celsius in our region. Well, no. Much, much warmer than that. Inside a "balmy" 24 Celsius so we basically stayed inside all day. I processed 2 garbage bags full of freshly cut chard which was nice, splashing around with cold water :-)
On 02 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
I do apologise. I forgot the link to the BBC article described in my mini-rant earlier. Please click on Luke's link to see the article. .... I think your a/ b/ or c/ explains it perfectly Luke.... Saskia, Philip Eden and my mum both agree with you about closing all the windows. I will explain my own thoughts later, if I remember that is. Have you tried using an ioniser to help keep dust and humidity down? Also, ceiling fans are absolutely superb coolers, but make sure they suck, not blow, that way they move the air from the cool floor to the ceiling, so instead of a feeling of a breeze blowing in your face and drying your eyes (contact wearers will understand), you have a gentle, almost imperceptible breeze wafting past you, going upwards, and believe me it is awesomely cool. Plus ioniser is just indescribable, almost cold!
On 02 Aug 2013, Craig M (Berks 45d Sub) wrote:
That BBC report is standard fare where a 'scientist' uses the cc meme to gain funding. The nonsense about a 2f rise in temps during a period of global cooling says it all. The twerps also failed to mention the LIA or did the revolutions (French etc) throughout the 19thC pass them by? Or the utter brutality of colonial rule & blowback? At the end was this "Instead, Dr Halvard Buhaug, from the Peace Research Institute Oslo, Norway, "I disagree with the sweeping conclusion (the authors) draw and believe that their strong statement about a general causal link between climate and conflict is unwarranted by the empirical analysis that they provide."I was surprised to see not a single reference to a real-world conflict that plausibly would not have occurred in the absence of observed climatic extremes. If the authors wish to claim a strong causal link, providing some form of case validation is critical."
On 02 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
Today is a SCORCHER! At 12:30 PM temps in the shade were 30.9 Celsius, out in the sun it was a mind numbing 35 Celsius. Yesterday afternoon was becoming so hot already that I made several trips to the bird sanctuary because young birds were jumping out of the nests due to it being unbearably hot! Quick and easy snacks for cats, sitting out on the pavement :-\ ung a laundrey rack out of the 1st floor window with a small tub filled with a few inches of water. Hopefully the birds can use it, at least this way the cats (we have 4 of our own murderers :-) can't reach them. Inside it's nice and cool, as I have left all windows and doors open throughout the night and then shut everything, drew the curtains and hung large towels over smaller windows just before 8 AM. Only way to keep it cool is to keep it SHUT.
On 02 Aug 2013, Luke_Kent wrote:
LOL you have to love the BBC. I wonder how this particular survey was conducted... Would you attribute increased violence to any of the following: A) Climate Change B) Climate Change or; C) Climate Change.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23538771
Actually, maybe they have a point... I do feel slightly angrier after reading this.
On 02 Aug 2013, Gill 1066 East Sussex - subscriber wrote:
I don't want to start a war or become piggy in the middle; but I created this little gem for myself a couple of years back. Q What can be identical, yet at the same time completely different? A - temperature.. By that I mean that a daytime temp of 12 c in January will feel warm, but 12 c in the day in August would feel flipping cold. So by that I use the average temp for the month and if it is going to be hot/ cold I just apply degrees above or below. There is no way Piers can forecast an exact temp weeks in advance, and again micro climate comes into play. That is why the MOBEEB can never forecast an exact temp either. During the heatwave, in the garden - around 30 c in places. Thermometer on my chair down by the pool at 2pm showed 48 c - I am not kidding. In the polytunnel at the same time 38 c. All within 30mtrs. For me that all added up to hot yet still with a deviance of 18 c.
On 02 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Always a big mistake... "I'll just take a quick look at the news before we go out..." Famous last words! I thought at first glance that this was typical climate change diarrhoea, but there is truth in this report, they just have the wrong driver. If they watched solar activity very carefully, they would see a very strong correlation between flares and human behaviour. Ahhh...but they can't blame the sun can they? So it has to be a 0.6C rise in average world temperatures over the past 175 years that must be causing all this violence. Silly me! Not to mention food, money, housing and resource shortages, topped off with little flood protection, slow and inefficient emergency procedures, high crime rates, drugs, civil war....have I missed anything? BBC Better Blame the Climate!
On 02 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Quote: "Watching what happens to the low just west of us, if it moves east and we get the N’lies we’ll be shivering.".......... Paddy...I am so envious! Oh to be in England in the summertime....what poetic pillock said that? You want to be in bonnie Scotland in the summertime matey where you can have all four seasons in a single day......then get the same treatment tomorrow! It's an awesome experience and perfectly normal and I love it. If I were in a position to move to Scotland I would be case packed and there in 5 hours...no regrets! ........ England this morning? After a sticky night a very cool morning, dull, looks like rain. Better take the dog for a quick moorland sniffing session before dreich becomes a part of my day too! Originally an English word by the way... (Dreig > meaning dreary)
On 01 Aug 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
We did get rather more rain than I expected overnight and in the morning. Markedly cooler, stiff SE breeze with the rain which lasted until 2pm, overnight 13˚C, 16˚ most of the morning but then it started warming up until it got to 22˚C by 6pm with the sun coming out, by which time the wind had turned into a balmy SW’ly. Watching what happens to the low just west of us, if it moves east and we get the N’lies we’ll be shivering.
On 01 Aug 2013, Bill Smith NEWales 45 d sub wrote:
Contrasts ,that's what makes Great Britain Great.yesterday very heavy rain,cold and dreich. Today summer again :) ,climbing to 28c by late afternoon, very pleasant and then, within 1 hour the wind veered From S to W with an 8c drop to 20 C barometer rising at same time. quite a contrast within a short space of one day.A month of contrasts of to a flyer
On 01 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Rhys.... thanks for that... A temperature is a clearly defined point on a scale. So what is cool? It's a very vague definition of something which isn't quantifiable, and is utterly subjective. How on earth is someone supposed to stick a temperature label on 'cool'?? .... You can't have 3 degrees of cool or a kilo of cool or a cubic foot of cool. You just can't put a number on something with such a tenuous definition. .......... Cool is an abstract term as is warm, it's just an idea about the way something is, but it can only exist in your head. Even the dictionary just gives some vague notion that cool is somewhere between warm and cold.... Oh...and thanks for the job offer but I'm far too busy!
On 01 Aug 2013, Ian Ridpath wrote:
Another interesting graph from the Danish Meteorological Institute (DMI), this time of temperatures between latitude +80N and the pole. Although well above average during the past winter, temperatures this summer have been a touch below average - in fact, right now they are very close to freezing. http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php Presumably this is related to the current increase Arctic ice cover which is shown on another of their graphs.
On 01 Aug 2013, Rhys Jaggar (annual 30d subscriber) wrote:
Russ
I buy my forecast from Piers, not from you.
I'd prefer an answer from Piers, if you don't mind.
He gives a % deviation for sunshine and rainfall and I'm asking him to explain how he draws up his terms for temperature. The whole point about the usefulness of the forecasts for gardeners is being able to make decisions based on them. If I don't know what the forecast means, how can I take decisons, eh??
I'm not expecting an answer to within 0.1 of a degree, I want to understand what he means by those terms. Preferably to within a degree or two. If the forecast is wrong, the forecast is wrong, but I'll deal with that as and when.
I'm not going to sue him, but I have a right to ask what he means and I can't see how he can have a problem answering.
You have yet to identify yourself as my customer relationship manager for WeatherAction.....
Cheers
Rhys
On 01 Aug 2013, Bob Weber wrote:
Piers, as I await your Aug US forecast, I'd like to say that your work should compel the real climate deniers of the Flat Earth Society to connect the dots between what happens in space and our weather and hence climate. We subscribers and others who see and understand such connections can only bide our time and work towards the real tipping point in human affairs - the absolute realization that almost all Earth weather events are driven in real-time by spaceweather in all its forms. I predict your August forecasts will include very interesting weather periods during Aug 3-6 and Aug 20-26 based on regular lunar activity and solar action as driven by the planets. I predict planetary theory - the music of the spheres - will take its true commanding place in science as people everywhere begin to see and understand that Earth systems, including biological are immediately responsive to the flow of electrons and protons (the very definition of electricity) from space. Thanx to you Piers!
On 01 Aug 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Rhys.... I think it would be impossible for Piers to predict actual temperatures as these vary so much over a large area. I am quite happy for Piers to forecast a change in expected temperatures say, from 27C down to 16C by forecasting "much cooler", which I find perfectly useable information. To be more specific is an impossible task as the precise temperature can vary between towns just 20 miles apart, with one town sitting under cloud all day, and the other in full sun. You also have to consider that heat is sensory and as such is subjective. What feels warm to me feels cold to my aged mother for instance. So keeping temperature predictions as simple as is practicable, I think, is the safest and most useful way forward.......... Saskia, I think it's the humidity levels plus very still, high pressure, dust & pollen filled air which is the problem you have encountered. The high remains stuck over Europe so maybe no cooler, dryer air yet a while.
On 01 Aug 2013, Barbara wrote:
Wow thanks so much Gill1066 and Piers, that is very generous of you both! but we just asked the kids to be prepared for anything the weather can throw at us and bring both waterproofs and sun cream, I'm sorry it took me a few days to check online again, I've been sorting tents, trying to make sure they are weatherproof, in the pouring rain, we've had some lively weather here in Northern Ireland these past ten days or so! Thanks again!
On 01 Aug 2013, Callum wrote:
Piers, where has the 3 for 1month (July offer) gone? Having subscribed very early July was expecting Aug forecast to be already uploaded, are there issues with this i.e. late?
Kind Regards
Cal.
On 01 Aug 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
Past night was positively chilly, this morning nice and cool. Still raining off and on, cloudy skies. Can't for the life of me imagine tomorrow being well above 30 Celsius, as predicted by the KNMI, but we'll see. Strange question: does anybody else have the same experience of there being "less oxygene" in the air? Even with overcast skies it feels like we have to use more effort to inhale air. Not just us, the dog is also panting lots more even when walking during the cool morning hours. Is it just us, or ... ?
On 01 Aug 2013, Rhys Jaggar (30d annual subscriber) wrote:
Piers
Thanks for the August forecast.
One minor request: would you define for us how you define 'hot, very hot, cool, cold, very cold' please??
Is it in terms of numbers of degrees above or below average, is it a standard deviation from mean based definition??
Rainfall, sunshine hours are defined clearly on the forecast in terms of % of normal. Unless I've got selectively defective vision, I can't see something for temperature.
I'd like to be able to translate your predictions into a predicted temperature if possible.
If you have already defined this somewhere on the site, please advise and I'd be delighted to read it.
Cheers
Rhys
On 31 Jul 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Cool start today, a noticeable nip in the air, overnight min temp was 10˚C. But there was no rain today and a lot of sunshine, wind was initially a chilly NW then turned the usual S-SE sea breeze, max temp was nevertheless a nice 21˚C, back down to 13˚at 10 pm. Watching the rain coming up from the south, I reckon we won’t get that much. Gardens & fields now well watered, veg looking as good as they haven’t in years.
On 31 Jul 2013, Ron Greer wrote:
I gather that the Danish Met Inst has released information that 3 of the coldest Arctic summers on record have been in the last 5 years and that this one is likely to join them. The MSM/Mobeeb have not been proponding that one, have they!!??
On 31 Jul 2013, Steve Devine (Sub) Waltham Abbey wrote:
For those wondering when the 30d/75d forecasts will be released for Aug/Sep, please kindly refer to the news at the top of this page...
On 31 Jul 2013, Steve,Dorset,UK wrote:
Sea ice, Sea ice, We see no sea ice This is probably what the warmistas will say, Have you seen the rabble of greens that have sprouted at the fracking site down south must be there holiday camp "happy clappy time".
On 31 Jul 2013, Ian Ridpath wrote:
Amazing recovery in Arctic sea ice cover this past fortnight: http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php Until recently it was following the 2009 curve but is now well above that. I wonder where this one is going.
On 31 Jul 2013, Saskia Steinhorst (part-time sub. Neth.) wrote:
Past few days have been somewhat cooler, intermittent rain showers which, unfortunately, don't do anything for the extremely dry land. KNMI predictions are for a tropical Friday with temps well above 35 Celsius! Despite the warm weather it still, strangely enough, feels like the weather is "off" somehow. Something keeps lurking in the background ...
On 31 Jul 2013, Craig M (Berks 45d Sub) wrote:
Remember how July was supposed to be one of the driest? According to Philip Eden's alternate EWP series we have had 89% as of the 29th. After today's rainfall across the British Isles we are looking at an 'average' month and the low temps will pull the CET back a bit. Link >> http://www.climate-uk.com << also the recent heatwave in perspective >> http://bit.ly/1aVtq6S << Took until mid afternoon to reach 18C today with continuous but light rain- coat weather - then the skies cleared for a lovely warm pleasant evening with a surplus coat!
On 31 Jul 2013, Gerry N Downs 600ft 45d wrote:
Interesting day monitoring Weather Channel's output. It forecast showers from 8am and lo at that very time as I stepped out to walk to the station the rain began. And then didn't stop all morning so not really a shower. Still, WC forecast the rain to end at 2.45. Then it became 6.15. The rain in Westminster stopped at 2pm by which time WC was forecasting it to stop at 5pm!!! And it remained dry until home time. Not the most helpful of forecasting.
On 30 Jul 2013, Rob wrote:
Same old, same old
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23346370
On 30 Jul 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Overnight low 13˚C, slightly cloudy start but promising to be another lovely day. However, at around 11, the showers started and never really let up, alternating with brilliant sunshine & temps up to 22˚C, even had one rumble of thunder around midday. I wouldn’t say it’s cold yet but certainly markedly cooler and now wetter. Piers predicted pressure map certainly is spot on for the present weather period. Now watching the highs out west getting closer, woollies at the ready :-)
On 30 Jul 2013, Brad wrote:
great work Piers , you are a true light in this world
On 30 Jul 2013, Piers_Corbyn (twitter) WA Forecaster wrote:
GILL THANKS FOR THAT NOT. If Barbara, is someone you know, has no money and such a freebie will help promote sales in the immediate future then yes please send it and updates. ALL however please note at this time of year (holidays and so forth) and indeed most of the time cash is extremely tight so any promo help is very much appreciated. Thank you
On 30 Jul 2013, Gill 1066 East Sussex - subscriber wrote:
Barbara, do you need the August forecast? If so as I have not shared my August one with anyone - perhaps Piers will let me send it to you as a one-off, as you have already purchased a forecast before. I think that happened here before with someone. you just have to agree not to send it on to someone else afterwards. If that is correct and Piers agrees - I just need an address to email it to.
On 30 Jul 2013, Lorraine wrote:
That's one huge coronal hole on the Sun in The Daily Mail today .... Article noting the recent space photographs ... Scary!
On 30 Jul 2013, Lorraine Lister wrote:
Russ- more on silicon rich water to remove aluminium from researchers http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22976072.. You'll only be able to view the abstract in PubMed but it is very credible.
On 30 Jul 2013, Piers_Corbyn (twitter) WA Forecaster wrote:
THANKS ALL FOR INTERESTING & INFORMATIVE COMS. PLEASE PROMOTE TODAY OUR SUPER VALUE FORECAST DEALS. Just one point, MARIE (Somerset): You cannot be serious. We have marked at least 6 major pressure areas in that 30d ahead forecast map and they are ALL confirmed (as well as a lot of other detail). The chance of that happening by luck even without a lot of other stuff and having them in rougly the right places is about 1 in 64; or put another way: How many random late July USA pressure maps would you have to look at before you found one as good a fit as our forecast? Probably 100s (Try it?). The fact it rained heavily where we had a deepening Low in general is confirmation not making the forecast less "Superb"! If you predict a winner at the Grand National it is still a winner whether or not you predicted the colour of the jockey's socks.
On 30 Jul 2013, Craig M (Berks 45d Sub) wrote:
Re: Cloud pics. I will set up a dropbox shortly and create a link box at the top of the page for easy access. Another way is twitter, if you have an account, (I'm @craigm350) & copy in Piers of course (@PiersCorbyn). The thunder + lightening missed me as did the real angry looking patches on the radar so the rain was 'just right' ~10mm to soak not flood & the same today (Mon). Some reasonably sunny breaks but cool evenings. The same system dropped 97.4mm (3.8inches) in Cumbria [[flashfloods also in Todmorden W.Yorks. Link >>http://bbc.in/13sFs1f <<]] but that is less than the 8inches (200mm) Philadelphia recieved.
Link>> http://bit.ly/1bCksiH
On 29 Jul 2013, Craig M (Berks 45d Sub) wrote:
From the Telegraph....in 2010 "The Met Office is predicting August could be even hotter, with forecasting models currently indicating record temperatures.It raises the prospect of the country experiencing the hottest weather since 2006 when temperatures reached 98F (35C) on July 19 in Wisley, Surrey.But it will likely leave many holidaymakers scratching their heads at the recent strange weather, after many were forced to this week endure heavy rain and strong winds.Barry Gromett, a Met office forecaster, said the hot weather was being caused by the “oppressively hot” conditions on the continent that will push warm air over Britain" Link>> http://bit.ly/9mQ4Du
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On 29 Jul 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
After yesterday’s deluge a lovely day, cool night at 10˚C but it warmed up soon enough and got to 26˚C, fairly cloudy occasionally but mostly very good sunshine. Huge thunder cumulus building up N of us late afternoon but again dissipating, quite a few showers N & W of us but nothing here. –
Lorraine: you put your finger on it, corporations hide behind governments which themselves are corporations, i.e. legal fictions operating under limited liability, meaning that the real people working for them have no personal responsibility for what they do. These real people have agreed to work under certain conditions, giving them a salary & the higher they rise in status the more they are bought off and locked into the system, so they are not likely to stand up and blow the whistle, whether that is on AGW, aluminium or whatever. Russ: on important matters I wouldn’t trust Wikipedia as far as I can throw it…
On 29 Jul 2013, maria ( 45 day sub) somerset wrote:
Rain records shattered in Philadelphia with flash flooding http://bit.ly/1bCksiH http://bit.ly/12Yw2M5
A foot of rain in 24 hours in North Carolina - major flooding and deaths http://bit.ly/17PyF68
Not sure you can say "USA end month "Superb call""??
On 29 Jul 2013, Gerry, N Downs, 600ft 45d wrote:
Co-workers unimpressed with MoBeeb forecasts for Sat rain. ! rushed his morning shopping in Dartford to beat the rain due late morning and......nothing until the evening. Another went shopping to an outlet centre in Bicester because rain was forecast and.....nothing during the day. On The Downs, a heavy shower came around 3pm then it brightened again until heavy rain around 6pm lasting for a couple of hours. Still quite warm. Drier on Sunday with just a couple of strong showers. No sign of the showers Weather Channel forecast on my phone today. Mainly bright with some sunny spells in Westminster. Tomorrow Weather Channel has showers then rain around lunch followed by more showers. Wonder if it will have changed by morning. Nothing wrong with updated you may say....but then you could ask why their forecasts are so bad in the first place?
On 29 Jul 2013, Steve,Dorset,UK wrote:
worth a look at this coronal hole pic. here is the Link...
Enjoy
http://www.spaceweather.com/images2013/29jul13/coronalhole_sdo_blank.jpg?PHPSESSID=adukfj3p25tq69a5o7d61rdgc1
On 29 Jul 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Some stupendous thunderstorms today, mainly around 1pm to 4pm across the Peak District. We are talking constant thunder and flashes every 10 to 15 seconds but sometimes less than 5 seconds apart. Very heavy rain plus shed loads of hail. All fizzled around 4pm but then so did the bombardment from the 2 CMEs that 'ahem' missed the earth. ...... Just like to mention that the worlds press, about 12 to 24 months ago, were shouting that aluminium smelting was expensive and the worlds supply was running out. We were told to stop wasting aluminium and that recycling aluminium was extremely important. *FACT CHECK* Aluminium is THE most abundant metal in the earths crust....... Uh?
On 29 Jul 2013, Barbara wrote:
Grrrr! I thought I had bought the three for one offer, just logged on and discovered I must have missed it! Typical, I only bought that forecast as I'm taking a group of kids away camping at the beginning of August, and thought it would be helpful to know whether to ask the kids to pack extra changes of clothes and wellies for wet weather, or suncream for dry, ah well, you can't win them all!
On 29 Jul 2013, Clive wrote:
I read about the AMO being warm and PDO being cold recently. Is there any truth in that this arrangement causes us to have wetter summers. The 40s and 50s are often brought up for the wet summers but then there were others that were very dry 1947, 1955 and 1959 for example. Where is the AMO and PDO lately. I went onto Mark Vogan's site the other day and he was explaining the latest infra red pictures of the Atlantic showed a lot of cold and the Pacific showed more warm that last year. Is there signs that the AMO is heading towards cold again and PDO is heading towards warm again.
On 29 Jul 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
I shall watch that video with interest Paddy, on the outside it looks very revealing and informative. I remember watching a video by Laurence Gardener, adviser to government and The Queen. After some research I found that all his expert analysis was just hocus pocus and he was promoting bottles of snake oil at $25 for something like 1fl/oz. Remember the cure all 'mono-atomic gold'? If it looks like a dog, and barks like a dog....etc!
On 29 Jul 2013, Russ NE Derbyshire subs wrote:
Clive...thanks for that link, some interesting historic stuff....... Rhys... I think even Piers must be getting a headache trying to predict months ahead, with the wild swings in temperature and 'sudden onset storms' we are seeing......... Paddy... are you aware of this? >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_theory << Legislation by stealth. One tiny nudge at a time instead of using a big sledgehammer, like the Victorians did..... Tons of thunderstorms rushing across the UK today but as usual Manchester and Mansfield get it, but the Sheffield area....NADA! Possible build up as the day wears on....we shall see...
On 29 Jul 2013, Clive wrote:
John Planet. Highest record temperature maybe not, There is a video come out by Gavin Partridge giving details on a summer in 1808 where temperatures had reached over 100. The website for this is www.gavsweathervids.com/. Gavin shows a list of different summers and also see Solar Cycle 24 Update And Hot July 2013 video for details on 1808
On 29 Jul 2013, John Planet wrote:
It is the case that Britain hasn't had a record low temperature yet in winter but has Britain really finished in terms of having a record high temperature yet? 2003 was the year when we had a record temperature but since records began early in the 20th century. What about our history of hot summers have we had anything even hotter than 1976, 1995, 2003 or 2006 in the past.before the 20th century. We all know what we had in terms of cold in the Little Ice Age but does this tell the full story. Is our record heatwave in the summer since records began in the 20th century yet to come?
On 29 Jul 2013, Jens Christian Heuer wrote:
"Wild Jetstream Age!" That´s a good description of circulation patterns nowadays! But what´s the reason for strange behavior of the jetstream (only!) on Northern hemisphere? It`s our weakening Sun, you say, a new little ICe Age is coming. This possibility cannot be ruled out! You may be right.
But there is also a diametrically opposite explanation!
Meteorologist Vladimir Petoukhov has found evidence that enhanced Arctic warming relative to mid latitudes (Arctic amplification, AA) is to blame for: http://bit.ly/Wu6hW0 Jetstream is a vibratory system with Rossby waves of different frequencies. A decreased gradient in air-temperature makes for more low frequency Rossby waves. That means a slow jetstream with slowly moving weather systems. If the frequency matches with the low frequency of jetstream´s natural standing Rossby wave (determined by surface features like mountain chains e.g.) a resonance phenomenon occurs leading to one standing Rossby wave with high amplitude. Best regard
On 29 Jul 2013, John Planet wrote:
Could the wild Jet Stream age had started 10 years ago because the were big contrast in weather from 2003 to 2004 in those summers. August 2003 had that intense heatwave which brought record heat then August 2004 was a month of huge deluges remember Boscastle when everything was being washed away. I have often held 2004 not 2007 has the start of the period of very wet summers even though 2005 wasn't so bad and 2006 was very hot. 2003 was also the year when Britain last had a real warm dry August in other places other than the south east. There hasn't been a nationwide warm August since then.
On 29 Jul 2013, John Planet wrote:
When we do go through a period of hot summers would it also be a period of much colder winters as well? Will next winter be really harsh? If there is more blocking could it mean that where the blocking occurs would result in what kind of winter or summer we have? What happened in much of July that the blocking seemed to be of an opposite nature to that of last summer. High pressure was placed instead of low pressure on the latitude.of Britain this year. This resulted in Britain having the warm and dry. A similar thing happened in March when Britain had the cold rather than the warm.
On 29 Jul 2013, Lorraine Lister wrote:
Thanks for that link Paddy. Silicon rich mineral water would be a much cheaper way to remove aluminium than chelation therapy. Although not weather related its interesting stuff because like the AGW lie so much is fed (literally and metaphorically) to populations as part of the dumbing down agenda by governments and multinationals.
On 28 Jul 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Russ: I meant that it isn’t even worth talking about people who explain everything with aliens/reptilians, or about the confusion sown by hoax sites and their slayers etc., they are all designed to confuse us so that we give up thinking for ourselves. - Nice nacreous cloud pics, I have a few of them as seen up here, most recent on 9 Dec 12, though taken with a cheap camera, so not as spectacular. – Lorraine L & Russ: some interesting stuff on aluminium by Prof Christopher Exley http://bit.ly/1e4BCBy. I have very little time to do such research but I’m sure there is more. I know that this is not weather related – but the fact is that so many apparently unconnected deceptions are fashioned from the same cloth as, for example, CAGW. Of course it is necessary to refute the ‘scientific cretinists’ with real facts, but it is equally important to recognise the pattern of motives that drives such deceptions, it is in all of them.
On 28 Jul 2013, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub)) wrote:
Great contrast today, heavy slow-moving rain started around 7am when we had 15˚C and never went any higher, started to dry up around 3pm, cloud lifting by 5, blue patches visible by 6. However, wind turned from v light S in morning to cold NW in afternoon, exactly as per Piers, and at 10pm it was only 12˚C. If that complex of lows out west really moves east we’ll get it in the neck. Philippe: your links about the devastation caused by hail – use bitly.com to shorten them, it’s free, you just have to register, gives you more space for your text. Here a translation of one that touches the topic of (small scale) weather modification: ‘in the 70s the Burgundy wine growers organised a 24/7 rota to keep an eye on the hail, ready to launch silver iodine/ide rockets in order to transform large hailstones into small inoffensive ones’.
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