On 26 Dec 2015, Steve,Dorset,UK. Sub wrote:
A very mild start to the day 26/12/15 with a stiff wind a blowing, but dry, temp15c. Clouds and a glimpse of sunshine about 10am. Daffodil out and primroses to.
Just read Paul homewood,s 2035 year very funny .....but may be not as we have a lot of strange people in the global warming cupboard now,
1685/86 (Winter) One of the warmest winters (by CET) in the series which began in 1659. Up to 2010, rank=5 Value=6.33 (but note that this mean is based on data to nearest half-degree C only); Dec=6.5, Jan=6.5, Feb=6.0
[ Others: 1734 (6.10degC, 1796 (6.20degC), 1834 (6.53degC), 1869 (6.77degC), 1935 (6.13degC), 1975 (6.43degC), 1989 (6.50degC), 1990 (6.23degC & 2007 (6.43degC.]
As might be expected with the mildness of the season, it was reported as being also very wet, at least across central and southern England.
On 01 Dec 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
David and Keith:
December forecast is indeed loaded and I've just downloaded it. You must have had a technical glitch somewhere
On 01 Dec 2015, David (Yorkshire) wrote:
Has forecast been loaded, I cannot login?
On 30 Nov 2015, keith wrote:
when is dec forecast added?
On 29 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
-1˚C at 7.30, overcast & still, a bit of sun around midday, then clouding over again, 2˚ max temp, W’ly wind rising & bringing sleet and even snow showers later in the afternoon, we still have a covering tonight under a clear sky, 0˚ at 10pm. Though it is not much snow with us, Piers is once again spot on with the general picture.
On 29 Nov 2015, Rhys Jaggar wrote:
Eastside
You really are very, very immature.
I have travelled to the Alps since 1980, worked as a Rep and party Leader for the SCGB for 7 years, lived in Austria and Switzerland and hence have had a long-term interest in the snow patterns of the Alps.
I said nothing about Russia, which has nothing to do with 'Europe', it being Eurasia.
Have you seen the forecast for next week in the Alps - it is for sunny and quite mild temperatures, which may well melt the lower-level snow which has fallen within 3 days?
I check my data from www.slf.ch, which is the Swiss National Avalanche Service, which has the finest set of data on snowfall patterns known. They record daily precipitation, accumulated snow base, they have charts comparing current snow pack depths as compared to an historical average. You will not get better data on Swiss snow data ANYWHERE.
So eat your words, if you please.....
On 29 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
NICK: that's quite a rant in response to my one, short sentence question. So if solar activity has no influence on climate change and anthropogenic CO2 very little, what is it that drives it and do you think Piers' Solar-lunar based techniques are ill founded?
On 28 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Independent.ie have a piece on how Ireland will be 2.6 deg. warmer in the summer in the future, comments in the section below the poor article are good, not every one believes their bull, like one guy said it might be an improvement in comparison to this summer season just gone, we struggled to reach 17/18 deg and I wonder are they talking a constant warmth or just more spikes in temp where they say it's been a really hot day when in fact it's just been a hot hour or two..
On 28 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
0˚C at 7.30, less cold than I expected, probably because of the blustery WSW’ly wind, cloudy morning, then brightening up nicely, max temp 4˚, down to 1˚ by 9.30pm, wind having turned into the NW. We have a yellow snow warning for the NE, whether it’ll come to anything in our location remains to be seen, more likely to be further inland & higher up. In any case, Piers has ‘sleet & snow showers’ in his 30d forecast, first mentioned on 13 October.
On 28 Nov 2015, Carl 30d Subscriber wrote:
Just make a few observations here about that climate debacle in Paris next week.Anybody notice that whilst the likes of the BBC are bladdering on about climate change David Cameron and Jeremy Corbyn have almost remained silent on this subject.In fact at yesterdays commonwealth conference the climate change bandwagon tried to hijack the conference but David Cameron instead of endorsing it maade a statement out of the blue saying he wants to set up a conference to tackle world wide fraud and corruption in London next year INTERESTING!!! as in my view man made climate change id the biggest fraud going on.By the way i went fishing today wet and windy and a cold wind even snow in Scotland another BANG ON forecast and fully endorse Piers forecasts.Just purchased his winter forecast as well and for those who doubt Piers skill I would not subscribe and spend my hard earned money on forecasts that were rubbish and when my 45d subs run out i will re-new without hesitation
On 28 Nov 2015, east side wrote:
"I wouldn't be blowing trumpets about early opening dates meaning 'European cooling' "
You forget I travel ALL OVER Europe and I use a lot of different indices to plan my routes, inc some hints from PC.
I should be very wary of criticising my observations because I routinely run in and out of RF, Baltic, and then Western Europe, and travel certainly a lot more than you.
Accurate weather forecasting is absolutely essential to my work,- just look at the scorching summer we had in France. 36-38C ever day, then -20C in Russia with snowfall as early as the first week of October.
You know how to work and plan for such conditions?
I have to.
On 28 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Lots of rain and wind this morn. today 28th, yellow wind warning in place, very raw out n about in it but good for the soul, some more rain and hail this afternoon, some areas above us had thunder and lightning. A nice night to be in by the fire, 9 deg but more like 6 now at 7 pm Orange wind warning issued at lunch time for tomorrow for Ireland between 6 a.m - 3 pm partly cloudy and wind picking up a little again now.
On 28 Nov 2015, Ice Man wrote:
link of interest to readers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-34410942
On 28 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
PIERS: Just checked the Mobeeb morning forecast against what you predicted from a month and more ago. To use your own expression--BRILL.
On 27 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
Just looked out of the window at 22-15 hrs on Friday 27th to find a covering of snow. Altitude here is 140 metres. Highland Perthshire.
On 27 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Dry at first but rain soon coming into play not long after the kids went to school, wind increased and quite gusty for a time around lunch - 3pm as it passed through and the temp dropped right down to 5/6 deg. cold showers early eve. 2 deg. feeling colder and mostly clear now 22.15 pm have noticed the met changing their forecast daily to fit the weather this week.
On 27 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
9˚C at 7.30, feeling very mild in a bluster SW’ly wind, cloudy and dry until about midday when pretty heavy rain set in for a couple of hours, after which there was a sharp change in temperature from 10˚ down to 5˚, mostly clear moonlit evening and only 0˚ at 10pm, looks like it’ll go down even further with the cold air being brought in from Greenland.
On 27 Nov 2015, theguvnor wrote:
@Gerry. You are correct about arctic sea ice but the reverse is also applicable for antarctic. No expert but possiby effects of El Nino. Good reference is Sea Ice Page in references in WUWT.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/
On 27 Nov 2015, Nick, Berks wrote:
Ron, seems a bit of a non-sequitur but I'll do my best to help you out with my beliefs. Warm November? No: that's one month and it's weather. Absence of an ice age? No: we weren't in one in the 1860s or the 1960s, we're not in one now and we still wouldn't be in one now even if CO2 levels hadn't increased. Now, is there an A effect to GW? Almost certainly but relatively small and we won't get anywhere near the worst predictions. Neither will the world (or its NH) have cooled by 2020 or 2030. UK energy policy? We should be exploring all of clean coal, fracking, nuclear, wind and solar. Mind controlling 'chemtrails', aliens or any other global conspiracies by 'them'? No, that's just paranoia. Now, do you believe that snow in the highlands or other NH mountains from Nov-Apr is anything to do with falling solar activity, other of course than through the annual diminution of day length? And when, if at all, do you expect to see the global temperature consistently falling?
On 27 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
The record number of surviving snow patches in the Highlands this year, even made the main BBC Scotland TV news tonight--now that's a turn up.
On 27 Nov 2015, J.Blakely wrote:
Wow Piers- spot on! Just chatting with Gill E.Sussex and we're both gobsmacked with your accuracy!!!
Just got to dig ourselves out from this snow!!!
On 27 Nov 2015, Phil sub nov oct dec Ipswich wrote:
Corbert Report discusses Lies, Damned Lies, and Global Warming Statistics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQqPQ0i_fl0
On 27 Nov 2015, Bob Weber, Michigan subscriber wrote:
Piers' forecast for our Thanksgiving was just about perfect, with very cold northern air filling in the west, bringing snow along the boundary in the north and rain in the south where a long front in place now separates much warmer eastern US weather, with snow melt everywhere Piers said. The only exception was no tornadoes and hail in AZ or Great Lakes area, thankfully for those people. No tornado or hail activity in US since the 18th, after a widespread outbreak 15th-18th, due to I think a rapid rise in TSI http://lasp.colorado.edu/data/sorce/total_solar_irradiance_plots/images/tim_level3_tsi_24hour_3month_640x480.png. USAF changed the F10 45day to higher activity a few weeks ago. Nov is @111.5 sfu/day, the 45d is @108, & 2015 @118.2 today. The sun's rotational plasma activity is now more even. If I could help PC with $$$ to go to Paris I would. Help him if you can, as it's very important to have Piers there. >It saddens me that there aren't any other commenters from the USA here.<
On 27 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
NICK( Berks), so do you think this is the result of anthropogenic CO2 outputs? MICHAEL: It has been wet and fairly windy most of this week and we had snow lying here at 140 metres on last Sunday into Monday The latest Mobeeb forecast predicts more snow as from tonight with some falls reaching lower levels this Sat/Sun. So with a 75% caveat from weeks out Piers has been basically correct.
On 27 Nov 2015, WENDY wrote:
HIGH PEAK,Derbyshire.Rain and more rain and fog cold and,windy too. Prince CHARLES, I find his views on climate change concerning,he seems to be taking more of a important role as heir apparent !
On 27 Nov 2015, Nick, Berks wrote:
Gerry, would be good if you would back those assertions up with some reliable sources. You see I look at http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/ (see Daily tab) and see Arctic sea ice about as low as it has ever been in recent years and 2 std devs below the long run average; at http://www.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/ which states Greenland in total losing ice at 200 Gt/yr; at http://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/2015 which says all Icelandic ice caps have been decreasing since 1995 (one showed an increase this year); and (in reference to Keith's comment) at http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/11/03/global-temperature-report-october-2015-warmest-october-in-the-satellite-temperature-record/ which shows the NH to be showing record warmth in the satellite era (all 2015 months show strongly positive NH anomalies). Hardly indicative of an ice age is it?
On 27 Nov 2015, Michael wrote:
(AllWinterSub) - So, Piers says snow and there's no snow to speak of > 150m across most parts of the UK (especially midlands southwards), why is this? Being a regular subscriber through the winter months, I am always keen to observe PCs views and LRFs since he's mostly 85% accurate in his predictions (and I love snow). The only gripe I have is the reference to SNOW and the boundaries associated with this on the maps. IMHO there needs to be some caveat applied that thunder snow / heavy snow is more likely or restricted to elevations above X meters. Too many times I get caught out by this thinking that because my location is in the boundary, I ought to expect whatever is forecasted (litteraly). Anyone care to comment on the elevation bit? Great work nonetheless from PC and his team.
On 27 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
Reports of earlier snow in the Atlas Mts of North Africa. Cold air started to come in here about an hour ago, after a very mild and very wet morning. First dusting of snow on Ben-y Ghlo down to about 900 metres.
On 27 Nov 2015, Michael wrote:
Piers says that - ANTS produce TEN times as
much CO2 as ALL man’s output-.Whilst I firmly believe this statement I would still like a layman`s explanation.
Can anyone provide in simple terms.
On 27 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
Keith - the short answer is we are. The Arctic has had a cold and short summer this year so ice growth is well ahead already. Greenland is also seeing rapid ice growth. Iceland is seeing glacier growth after a short cold summer. There are plenty of reports of early and heavy snowfalls across the northern hemisphere. It is just that we aren't really seeing it here yet.
On 27 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
RHYS: looks like quite a bit of hill snow in Scotland this week according to the MObeeb ( Piers' Nov forecast again on the ball), but Exacta's usual snowmaggedon stuff down the khazi again.
On 27 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
KEITH: you might find it helpful to 'google' the Ice Age Now website and follow up on some of the articles and URL connections The IAN site does contain quite a bit of political polemic and rhetoric at times, but the source material is worth looking at. I further recommend 'googling' Ivar Giaever: Global Warming Revisited and also Research at El'Gygytgyn, Julie Brigham-Grette.
On 27 Nov 2015, Rhys Jaggar wrote:
East Side
The snow conditions in the Alps are quite variable - the snow has fallen heavily on a subset of resorts which respond well to a NW wind - Northern Switzerland, the Northern French Alps , the Pyrenees and a few places in Italy. There is generally little snow in S/SE Switzerland, Italy, the Southern French Alps and a more normal amount in Austria.
The Alps have had the hottest summer ever and a remarkably mild Autumn. It's only the past week that a brief cold snap brought all this snow.
I wouldn't be blowing trumpets about early opening dates meaning 'European cooling' - funnily enough Scotland had a cooler than average year, but to date the depressions hitting the Scottish mountains have brought more rain than snow this autumn so no ski-ing there for a while yet.
On 27 Nov 2015, @Piers_Corbyn twitter address wrote:
THANKS LORRAINE for your Report (just below). Those winds interesting. The period 24-27th was however not R5 but R4-R3 although on old scale could be R5-R4. There are N hem / S hem differences in R periods which might be showing here but more work is needed on that matter.
On 27 Nov 2015, Lorraine Lister (sub) NZ wrote:
Ferocious winds across NZ today on the last day of the R5 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/74472143/high-winds-ground-helicopters-fighting-forest-fires. Started off with a hot nor' westerly here, now cooler but the wind is very strong. Hoping for some much needed rain before it blows itself out.
On 27 Nov 2015, @Piers_Corbyn twitter address wrote:
THANKS ALL FOR BRILL COMMS AS ALWAYS! Please Hurry to take-up 50% OFF deals. We need the money to get to Paris and back. Re KEITH's question below please read the pdf of my presenation in the place of Westminster on 25th and note 1. the world including North hemisphere has cooled markedly over the last 5 years - graph is on twitter feed as well - using reliable satellite data not the fraudulent data from climate alarmist liars in the theives kitchen and war lie machine of the UN. 2. Arctic ice under real measurements is also increasing (BBC half reports give the opposite impression) however note as explained in my Pres OCEAN CURRENTS NOT AIR do the occasional melting and there can be opposite situations say between Br+Ir+NW Europe and Arctic ice - like happend in both 1816 and 2012 for a while - both mini-ice-age siuations, 1816 being Dalton minimum.
On 26 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Grey drizzly on n off all day max 12 deg. mild with high humidity, still 10 deg now at 23.45 pm with a little fog.
On 26 Nov 2015, keith wrote:
It was a honest question why arent we experience cooling in the northern hemisphere and a rapid increase in the Arctic ice if LIA is happening
On 26 Nov 2015, BLACK PEARL wrote:
Hey .. Piers Can you arrange a little snow & 'biting' temps for Paris next week :)
On 26 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Oh, forgot some good news: heard on the radio this morning that the Peterhead carbon capture project has been quietly shelved, the leading scientist of the project predictably whining about how we’re going to regret this (read: how my gravy train has just been derailed).
On 26 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
5˚C at 7.30 and rising to 10˚ max in a beautiful sunny day, late autumn bliss and quite a change from yesterday, no jacket needed. SW’ly wind, no rain, 8˚ by 9.30pm, which is pretty mild for this time of year. == Here is a good presentation on ‘truncating the y-axis’ by James Corbett https://www.corbettreport.com/lies-damned-lies-and-global-warming-statistics/ worth watching for how figures are fiddled in all walks of life.
On 26 Nov 2015, east side wrote:
Funny facts:-
The ski resorts in France are opening this weekend in Chamonix, & some other notable ones.
What a coincidence, the warmists are going to their temple in Paris.The Netherlands has just announced it's going to commit energy suicide by closing all it's coal fired power stations ASAP.
It doesn't occur to them that opening ski resorts in the Alps & the Pyrenees with excellent snow conditions, (in many cases up to 3 weeks early), means that Europe is generally speaking considerably colder than it was a decade ago on falling solar output. More energy in winter time in the next 10 yrs is needed to cope with heating demands.
I don't recall there's enough sunlight in a winter northern hemisphere to power those solar panels they're so busy buying & installing on perfectly good arable farmland.
I'm going skiing on the first day of the new season, because it's bargain price.There's almost nobody there,-while the lunatics wave their arms wildly blowing hot air in Paris!
On 26 Nov 2015, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
Nick- the temp data and averages are so messed up/ fiddled that talking about them has little significance. We need to start at ground zero and the data collected by an independent body not the Houghton/IPPCC cultists of Hadley who cannot be trusted. My virew is that we are in an intergalcial warming period so should expect warmer temps and its nothing to be scared of. On ice age charts temps can go up 4c and still be in normal ice age ranges. The terror of change of the co2ers is just infantile. If you ask them what is the correct climate for uk they don't answer. Using a 30 year average for climate is also deception. it should be at least 1000 yrs.
On 26 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
Our discussion just goes to show how hard it is to get an average temp that people all agree with. Expand that to the world and you can see what a superficial thing the global average temp is. Paul Homewood has shown how raw data in S America showing a cooling trend amazingly becomes the opposite so no wonder trust in the surface records is falling, especially as the deviation from both satellite records grows to a point where people can't help but notice and wonder why. Warmists like the MetO are always going the skew the truth so we shouldn't be surprised. They and the IPCC rely on prestige to get people to believe them. People trust scientists but the more detached from reality they become the more that prestige is damaged.
On 26 Nov 2015, Nick, Berks wrote:
Richard, you misquote me by omitting the words 'it MAY be that' . I referred to CET because you can get a running average as the month proceeds. I'm well aware that CET is at best an England proxy (clue is in the title), that's why I very carefully said that though CET for November will be very warm (that's now a certainty) Scotland may pull down the UK average if it ha a very cold November but that, based on obs, I don't get that impression. It's also why I gave a link for the final test not to the Hadley CET page but to the MO UK summaries pages which update after the month end and give summaries for the whole UK and by region. Finally, those pages quote anomalies vs. both 61-90 and 81-10 which is why I referred to averageS (plural). To be clear, I believe November will be warm enough to make the whole UK Autumn average warmer than the 1981-2010 average, probably by about 0.3-0.5C. If you believe otherwise then make your prediction.
On 26 Nov 2015, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
NIck "Scotland has had an unusually cold November and will pull down the UK average "... CET doesn't measure anything from scotland. CET is a basically London, Bath, Chester triangle. It misses out the Pennines. Also being above average depends upon which average you use. Meto refuse to explain why they cherry pick 1961-1990 which just happens to be the coldest average you could use [1960s winters!) so everything will be 'above average' unless we got 1960s winters. It is more rational to choose 1981-2010 but then you wouldn't get the co2 screaming headlines of 'hotest ever' way above 'average'. So its all politics and little science that is of any use. Also one has to be aware of the dodgy temp readings from some of the stations that they only correct much later after a big headline has gone out. They use CET sites that originally were in the middle of nowhere that are now in major cities so have 'warmed up' . Hadley have turned CET into a political tool & hope we too stupid to notice
On 26 Nov 2015, Nick, Berks. wrote:
Paddy, thank you for the cross-check - caveat noted. We had a -3C ourselves last weekend (30m elevation in the Thames valley), it's not always balmy in the SE though it's a clement 8C just now.
On 25 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Partly cloudy with sunshine at times, some light showers too and a nw'ly breezy day, again making it feel cooler than the max 12 deg.
On 25 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
NICK, just to clarify, in our part of Scotland we have had a mild November for the most part, very little frost so far compared to other years, but then we’re only at 130m elevation and about 3-4 miles from the sea. I know that about 12 miles inland they’ve already had -5˚ on one occasion.
On 25 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
3˚C at 7.30, light frost in sheltered parts, cloudy but brightening up soon to give a sunny morning and early afternoon with a max of 6˚ in a cool NW’ly breeze, 5˚ at 9.30pm, more cloud again. == ROB, thanks for the explanation but the graph actually refers to air temperature. I agree that soil temp is very important and I will actually now bother to get a soil thermometer for next season; we don’t do agricultural crops, apart from a bit of grass which we rent out, our production is trees and veg, the latter for our own use as an important part of our domestic economy. NICK, the growing season has certainly been on the cool side this year, but the mild autumn has, as an example, helped filling out our sugar loaf chicory, if it had been a cold one we wouldn’t have had any fresh winter greens to eat except bitter green oute leaves, corn salad has done equally well. Without tunnels we would be struggling.
On 25 Nov 2015, Carl 30d Subscriber wrote:
Just heard a quip from the BBC!!! Its official 2015 has been the hottest year on record!!!! Do the BBC realy think we are so stupid that we all believe them has the Eastern seaboard of the U.S.A had some of the coldest winters ever (please feel free if you live there to correct me if i am wrong) and i just had a conversation with a relative in Australia who even told me just last week that the Australian winter was chilly.The BBC and IPCC and the Met O must think we are totaly 100% thick if we are even going to swallow it because every time ask people about the climate change conference the response is the same "We dont care about it there are far more important issues politicaly
On 25 Nov 2015, David (Yorkshire) wrote:
Just read maddens update from yesterday re this weekend - you have to laugh, i dont think he knows how to forecast anything other than snow.
On 25 Nov 2015, Nick, Berks wrote:
Gerry, a week ago I predicted a CET anomaly for the month in the range 1.5-2. I was wrong; it is now going to be comfortably in excess of 2. It may be that Scotland has had an unusually cold November and will pull down the UK average but I don't get that impression from Paddy's and others' postings: the difference would have to be stark. The UK as a whole will turn out to be a significantly warm month and suggestions to the contrary are whistling into the wind. No need to debate though, we'll know in about 10 days or so from here: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/summaries/2015. Autumn as a whole will also be warmer than the 30 year averages though not markedly so. There will inevitably be some regional variances around the mean but that doesn't change the overall picture.
On 25 Nov 2015, Rob Horler wrote:
Cont- potential growth days and in 2013 when Piers spoke at a turf event in Leamington the cold spring went on for ever. We have a species of grass(poa annua) which hates cold you simply cannot cheat nature, soil temps are vital and below 6 is not great. You can improve your feed regime however. I reccomend all growers own a soil thermometer and maybe a moisture meter.
On 25 Nov 2015, Rob Horler wrote:
one of the points i was making with the graph was that if these last couple a months were record breaking then why is it not reflected in the soil temperature. It is rarely as simple as that,in reality nightime temperatures this year seemed cool. I suspect all so called record temperatures are taken in heat islands, maybe the only fair system would be a 24 hour record. With the cool nights the 24 hour reading would have suprised a few people. Night time temperature is important for the plant for growth. 6 degrees is the important figure in grass and therefore cereal production as well and little happens below this temperature. The smart people are now being very clever with sources of nitrogen and timing. Within our industry we react to weather more than ever and have abandoned doing things "because we always have done" Some seasons have had good growth in late autumn but we think it more a shift of season than warming. Springs have been cold and run later so we have no more- cont
On 25 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
Wet weather in the morning cleared to give sunny spells. Moonlit evening but wet again by morning. Stopped during the commute and a glimpse of sun. Chilly in the wind so below average. Asim - you hole your own argument by saying that it wasn't below average in the south-east but that just backs up the variable temps across the UK that could result in a below average month. We have already seen the effects of a meridional jetstream which Piers has said is a LIA feature. This negates comparisons with the el Nino of 97/98. Rob is making a valid point about the accrued warm in the soil which like heat stored in the oceans will have an effect during winter. The BBC at the 28gate conference made a decision to be biased so why would anyone expect a balanced view. Switch to catch-up tv and cut off their funds.
On 25 Nov 2015, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
BBC Newsnight continues for the second night in a row their dreadful 'pravda' about co2 asking 'what are we going to do to stop climate change' in the 'climate battle'. Harrabin is your wormtongue for tonight. Where did journalism go into checking facts and presenting both sides?
On 25 Nov 2015, Steve Devine wrote:
Full Moon out there and everyone's going crazy! Anyhow, analysing the provisional November temperatures shows me a month of two halves with an average outcome. November by day averaged 12.4c in SW Essex, only 0.9c milder than 2014. Night temps averaged 7.9c, 0.2c cooler than 2014. Daytime November temps have averaged 10.3c in the last 10 years, so it wasn't that mild after all, just marginally above average really.
On 25 Nov 2015, Rob Horler wrote:
PADDY- The graph is the daily soil temperature added uo to give a monthly figure and then compared to the last six seasons.The figures are from the oxford area as far as i know. The reason i encouraged people to view it is because all of the hear say about warm this and that is being banded around these figures show that as a whole soil temperatures are lower than at least two of the previous six on average, Most of us have not had a great season and the Scots lads were still having frosts in june
On 25 Nov 2015, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
Mild/cold thread- remember uk is usually split in the midlands between warm south and cold north which is why CET is a misleading measurement for UK as it misses out the cold. I'm sure people in south where there are no mountains do feel its mild. The north is on the same latitude as sweden and moscow.
On 25 Nov 2015, Steve,Dorset,UK, sub wrote:
Winter 1660 and 1661 mild as you can see by this, was this the global warming that the BBC would have been trotting out on an hourly basis if they had been around in 1660........liars and cheats as we get near to the Paris jamboree.
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A mild winter - using the (early) CET record (nearest whole degC only), the average comes out at 5degC, or roughly one-and-a-quarter C above the all-series mean. Pepys mentions in late January that there had been a general lack of cold weather, and that it was 'dusty' (implying a warm & dry winter), with plants well ahead for the season. However, to counter that statement, there are reports elsewhere at the time of 'high winds, excessive rainfall & flooding'. The two 'types' aren't mutually exclusive though because it could mean that the southeast / London was subject to broadly above-average pressure and small amounts of rain, whilst stormy, wet spells affected the more 'Atlantic' facing regions north & west.
On 24 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Max 10 deg. on the milder side but chilly breeze, mostly cloudy all day with some showers..
On 24 Nov 2015, David (Yorkshire) wrote:
Shaun - its all relative - i personally think October was mild, i kept having to cut the grass into the first week of November. I have never had to do that before and plants flowered well into November that have normally died off come the middle of October. The uk hss always had big swings in temperature in winter, whether we are in an LIA or not.
The signs of what piers has predicted have been evident in recent winters (thundersnow last January a perfect example) but it does not mean we are going to go into the freezer,every winter and i think this is what some people expect!!
2009/2010 was one of the only examples of a strong el nino giving a cold UK winter. This current one is remarkably like 97/98 and that winter had some very mild days.
On 24 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
5˚C at 7.30, overcast and damp start, sun beginning to come out by 10.30 turning into a good day for this time of year, no rain, max temp 6˚, clear evening with an almost full moon, 3˚ at 9pm. == Lorraine, Carl: not sure where you’re coming from re population, are you suggesting that the warmists should take population into their calculation, i.e. fewer people = less CO2, therefore cull the useless eaters? The overpopulation myth is one of the bees in my bonnet, that’s why I’m asking. == Rob H: I’m thick so I don’t quite understand that graph, can you explain a little more, thanks.
On 24 Nov 2015, Asim wrote:
Hello Shaun you must be living on another planet! The UK October and November very mild, in fact balmy weather, especially In the south east. just because you were - 2 and got snow that doesn't mean the UK as a whole was colder. Taking out the short lived cold snap last weekend, Get used to Atlantic onslaught about to begin December and most likely january.. With a strong JS westerly for the foreseble future. Thank you. AO and NOA in very positive state now. Which reduces the chance of any decent cold or blocking occurring in the UK this is just ONE of the factors. Thank you.
On 24 Nov 2015, Richard Head wrote:
All this talk of mild weather through November and into December; I'm dreaming of a shite Christmas!
On 24 Nov 2015, Carl 30d Subscriber wrote:
Yes Lorraine that was going through my mind as well,Since this CO2 nonsence begun Not one mention of population i mean it is now clear if the population numbers go up so does CO2 its plain maths and i do find it very strange the IPCC have not even mentioned it
Anyway now to that Buffoon called Prince Charles well all i can say is "God save the queen and long may she reign over us"because if Charles ever becomes king we can all stand up and sing "God help us if Charles is king God help us all"
On 24 Nov 2015, Rob Horler wrote:
I know there are a fair amount of growers and people with general interest in all things nature related so I have enclosed a link to an excellent website we in the turfgass industry use. It is basically a graph representing growth degree days, in otherwords the potential of days for the growth averaged over a month and going back five years, great reading for all you statos!
#http://weather.headlandamenity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/GDDmonthlycomparisonJantoDec2010to2015image.png#
On 24 Nov 2015, shaun wrote:
cont... even the gulf stream has said to be showing temperature drops, and some of these variables are possibly the reason we have had most months this year below average temperature according to MO data so at this moment it is very much mindless nonsense to pretend we have an idea of what will happen months away.
As has been apparent in recent years, in line with Piers is the dramatic swings between temps, hence November had some hot days early in the month but then dropped from above average to significantly below average within days. So while you as an individual may think you know sufficient to make such long term predictions and assuming you are right, these dramatic swings show that all can change in a very short time.
But as I do not think you are right, I completely disagree and believe there is more going for a cold winter this year than in many years, that is not to say it will happen or that I know any more or less than you it is simply out opinions
On 24 Nov 2015, shaun wrote:
@David I do not know where you get your information from David but seems you are talking nonsense, October was not mild, MO data declares that October was below average, also almost all months in this year according to the same data has been below average, the start of November was mild but we have had snow and minus 2 here this week which is 2 degrees below the whole winter average for this areas even though it is not even winter yet and even though slightly warmer than that -2 low it is now below average temps and forecast to remain slightly below so until November is over it is not clear if the month as a whole will be below average.
The El nino does not always bring mild, the el nino was claimed to have been part cause for the winter 2010 and the sun is indeed quiet, it is declining at a rate not seen in about a 100 years according to Nasa and at its current time in the cycle is well below the norm.
There is major icecap gains, the sea above the UK is colder than usual and...
On 24 Nov 2015, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
BBC Newsnight biased propaganda about the co2 which they describe as the 'culprit' and as our 'habit' is clearly terrible journalism that took a totally uncritical acceptance of the assertions of the co2 happy clappers as truth. All the co2ers have done is outsource our co2 to china and india eg steel. Sadlly the biased BBC did not challenge the link between co2 and warming and they failed to challenge that all the co2ers predictions have been proven wrong. This Newsnight report demonstrtaes all that is wrong and failed at the BBC and why it no longer serves the truth or the public.
On 23 Nov 2015, Kent Weald wrote:
Our planet is for ever changing, from a massive island of all continents jammed together to a free state of floating land masses. In that time we have gone through many extremes from total ice to ice free. Massive volcanoes have belched 'greenhouse gases' to the tune of millions of tones worth.
The earth doesn't need humans puny CO2 emissions to effect change anymore than it noticed the flatulance of dinosaurs. It will change as it decides through factors far more powerful than anything we are yet capable of. ....rant over. Cynically in these days of distortion whose is to say that the figures ' climate deniers' use are any more truthful than warmists. Just a thought whilst I prepare for the next twenty years chill ...........
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On 23 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
1˚C at 7.30, pretty overcast & getting more uniformly grey during morning, rain starting around midday and lasting to 3pm, some of it heavy, stiff and farily cold SW’ly breeze, temps gradually rising to 6˚ by 10pm, so back to autumn from winter.
On 23 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Beautiful sky this morning orange and pink, slight frost 0 deg. rising to 4 by 9 a.m increasing to max 10 deg in the day, still felt on the cooler side although milder than the weekend and showers were cold. I don't think I'd be inclined or clever enough to take a guess at what the winters going to be like as a whole, but I do believe after what I've seen and learnt from this site is that I'm sure we will experience more extreme contrasts of weather.
On 23 Nov 2015, David (Yorkshire) wrote:
I believe in the methods Piers uses and obviously his November forecast has been very good, i havnt seen decembers, so cannot comment. I may purchase it at the end of the Month. Storms are my worst fear for december and the more likely scenario rather than cold and snow. Thats not my opinion, it is the norm for December in the UK. As i said no signal for Northern blocking.
On 23 Nov 2015, Lorraine wrote:
Lorraine// regadless of blaming climate change on the war in Syria or fundamentalists rising due to displacement because of lack of food. I have not heard a single word on population - population especially in India being sustainable in the long term
On 23 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
Thick frost this morning and cold all round. Lots of winter coats at work - some still wearing them as the heating was a bit sparse. Observations reported at work. Light covering in Stevenage that lasted no time at all. Hills near Meopham in Kent got a near blizzard Saturday morning for around an hour but once finished it didn't stay on the ground that long. Light snow in Epsom. Rob - I am sure the recipients will love their intermittent green energy. Our dim (nice pun) energy secretary said she wanted us to be a good example but doesn't understand quite what that means. Her brother wants to keep us under the Brussels cosh and has close links to Labour. David - the big El Nino is not all it's made out to be by the desperate warmists. Bob Tisdale on WUWT has the subject nailed down. And the missing factor from looking at the recent El Ninos is the meridional jetstream. Argentina recorded a record cold month recently that was blamed on El Nino but the previous record wasn't in 1998.
On 23 Nov 2015, JR wrote:
I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank Piers for his excellent forecasts. Piers has been spot on for November so far. Indeed, I think that Piers has had an amazing track record of success from when I renewed my subscription this spring. I can honestly say I have been given a better view of the type of weather to expect in any given period than conventional weather forecasts! Well done and keep up the good work!
On 23 Nov 2015, Carl 30d Subscriber wrote:
Alistair Yes i too watched gavsweathervideo 10th winter update and like you i disagree with his comment at the end about climate change.Yes the winter of 1941/1942 was a very cold winter we have had months since then that have been much colder i.e February 1986 - 1.1 and even recently December 2010 - 0.9 (which Piers so brilliantly forecasted) .Could this winter follow that of 1941/42 Gav also is comparing this coming winter to that of 1895/96.Ive got Decembers forecast from Piers but sorry not going to give anything away
On 23 Nov 2015, Rob Horler wrote:
GERRY- i am sure you will be delighted to hear Cameron has just found 5.8 billion to finance green energy overseas while our own lights will be going out. Race to the bottom contiues at pace.
On 23 Nov 2015, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
Alistair- how global warming works. Today on suspicious observers ytube video about 2.25m into the vid [23NOV2015] NOAA recorded a temp in Deadhorse Alaska they called the 39 year high +42oF above usual. He shows how those temps measured at Alaska you have to go to the equator to get. But they will leave it in so it bumps up the average and so danaa we have 'warmest year on record'. Its a bit like those obvious error results ifrom the Wales sheltered heat trap and Heathrow heat island super heated air that are not consistent with other stations nearby. In time They might correct them a bit but only after the screaming headlines have come out how we all going to fry and they have the data to prove it. Basically the temp records are corrupted and unreliable and those using them sex them up to make them fit their agenda. for vid see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1JQ58q06LI
On 23 Nov 2015, Asim wrote:
Hi David I never said that this winter is going to be cold and snowy ?? I was saying the same as you, very mild December Atlantic driven and January a complete wash out.
On 23 Nov 2015, Lorraine Lister (sub) NZ wrote:
Forgot to post the link to my comment yesterday about the R5 literally going out with a bang in Auckland - there were over 10,000 lightening strikes http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11549366
On 23 Nov 2015, @Piers_Corbyn twitter address wrote:
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On 23 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Cold with sunshine and some blue sky today ( 22nd ) max 6 / 7 deg. Felt cooler, lovely day followed by a sky full of stars and winters nip in the air tonight, halo around the moon earlier too..
On 22 Nov 2015, David (Yorkshire) wrote:
Asim - this winter will not be a cold and snowy one.
1. We have a strong el nino which leads to milder UK winters - not cold like the media keeps stating
2. Solar activity is not low
3. High pressure over the azores will keep southern Britain mild
4. There is no sign of any northern blocking patters developing.
5. The seas around Britain are warmer than normal after a mild October and November
Thank you
On 22 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
1˚C at 7.30, about 1cm of snow on our hill but wet rather than crisp, nice sunny morning though, WNW’ly breeze most of the day, feeling quite chilly but not as keen as yesterday, presumably because it is mid-Atlantic air flowing over the top of the HP system currently over Britain, rather than polar as yesterday. Got to 3˚ but back down to 0˚ by 9pm. Nasturtiums in veg tunnel only partially blackened by last night’s frost, so full winter not here yet & MO says temps rising over the next few days.
On 22 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
Working outside till after sunset and a chilly and mostly sunny day. Some patchy cloud arrived before sunset. Light wind. Does anyone know what model Sat24 uses because their forecast was for rain this morning and there has been nothing? While noting their inaccuracy, they have a big orange splosh of snow heading down from the Arctic in a SE direction at the end of the week. Mostly turns to rain as it heads across the country.
On 22 Nov 2015, Alistair wrote:
Just watched Gavsweather vids .com update and he makes comparisons with 1941 /42 winter.
However there is one part towards the end during his summing up, when he says that considerations have to be made when making a comparisons between 1941/42 and the present(2015/16).
The main consideration he appears to be making is climate change and the fact that, according to him, the world is considerably warmer now than what it was then.
Now I'm not an expert on such matters but I thought that the world had actually cooled slightly since that period, however, I'm sure someone on here will be in possession of the actual scientific/ climate facts and kindly point them out.
On 22 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
Cont'd. The only way to get them to build will of course be with taxpayers' cash in the form of subsidies or guaranteed prices as with the nuclear plant. But it is too late for next winter. Those of us who were around for the 3 day week will remember the periods of power on and power off. We got by but it was a different world. At the supermarket checkout, the price on each item was looked at, rung into the mechanical till and then at the end up popped the figures for the the total. With no power now, there are no prices only bar codes, no mechanical tills, we didn't have freezers and masses of frozen food those days either. And in the paperless office how do you do anything? Even the phone systems often won't work if you have IP phones or use VOIP. Will mobile phones work? If the masts are on the same grid then the answer must be no. Blue Labour can't blame New Labour for this since they all voted for it in 2008.
On 22 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
Thick frost this morning but melted away by the sun. Blue skies with just enough wind to sway the eucalyptus - due to height and leaves probably. Fish didn't gather for food yesterday so they have reacted to the cooler temps. Booker in the Telegraph has a good piece of the comedy storm naming by the MetO. The ever excellent Paul Homewood has noted that neither Abigail or Barney met the requirements of a storm. The odd high gust doesn't count so you are left with the view that the naming is just climate alarmism again. Of interest is Booker on the great energy fiasco. If we get through this winter - a big if - without power cuts or reductions, then the chances for next winter are virtually nil as 3 more coal-fired power stations are being forced to close. There is only 1 gas plant in Manchester under construction so there will be nothing extra for next winter. No power company has offered any new gas generation as it is too much of a risk. Cont'd
On 22 Nov 2015, paul wrote:
Temps in Lowestoft got down to 0.3c last night. Trace of half melted snow which refreezes on my shed roof this morning.
On 22 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
Had a light/moderate fall of snow last evening ( about 2cm) . Woke up to much of it remaining and with blue skies setting it off, it could be considered as the end of autumn and the beginning of winter.
On 22 Nov 2015, Maria 45day sub somerset wrote:
slightly red sky, 7.45 am, 1.2 degrees, no wind at all, humidity 91%. Plants look floppy now and some will finally die down. My sprouts and kale will benefit. Gloriously bright and sunny yesterday but have arranged everything to be able to stay indoors while it is so raw out. Amazing accurate forecast
On 22 Nov 2015, Lorraine Lister (sub) NZ wrote:
The R5 literally went out with a bang last night over Auckland NZ. Heavy rain in parts of the north of the North Island too.
On 21 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
0˚C at 7.30 - and for the rest of the day, first proper winter’s day, quite sunny at times with a keen NW’l breeze blowing. Planted lots of tulips in pots last week, the top of the compost in them remained frozen all day, first time this has happened this side of Christmas, wonder how the earlier and less hardy variety of corn salad will do once the next mild spell comes along. Not much of last night’s snow was left this morning but the hills to the west of us are all dusted in white to quite a low level, maybe 150 metres, looks like we’re going to get a little more from the Low presently moving SE-wards over Scotland, even though MO say not. Great to have some real dry cold for a change, seemingly quite different from your neck of the woods, Ron. Once again, Piers foresaw the change to the day.
On 21 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
Winds from the north today and cold it is too. Report from friend of snow & sleet in Surrey (Leatherhead) at 6am this morning. Can't help from my area as I was in the land of Nod at that time. Rain in the morning but stopped by 11am and then the sun made it through for the rest of the day.
On 21 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Progressively colder all day yesterday a few light showers here some sleety in nature, 1 deg at 11 pm felt more like -2/-3 with wind chill, yellow wind warning up for Leinster and other counties, some places have seen snow Leitrim Tuam ect 3 deg. now at 9 a.m feels well parky :)
On 21 Nov 2015, Kent Weald wrote:
Carl: part of Kent I was in was certainly wetter than MetO were forecasting even a day before in fact it changed from dry but cloudy to the actuality of rain most of the working day, have to say only a brief spate of torrential mostly light annoying level. 8:30 Sat morning the sleety snow has reached us, not settling just a damp dark grey morning.
On 21 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
Only a few wet-snow showers mid to late evening nothing lying at 140 metres. Briefly windy but calmed down very quickly. Chilly but no frost to speak of. Hills well covered down to 500 metres. ASIM: Those of us who subscribe don't tend to give too much away about Piers' forecasts, but can say he's been well on the mark these last 3 months. Standard models are less reliable, but these and Exacta show alternating mild -cold transitions in the short term, but if you really want to know about December, I suggest you take out a WA subscription .
On 21 Nov 2015, Maria 45day sub somerset wrote:
we don`t need thoughts Asim, we have Pier`s forecast to guide us and our plans. Made plans accordingly for this weekend and am staying put in my cosy house, thank you for the accuracy, older people like me don`t adapt as easily to sudden changes in temperature, am grateful for the advance notice
On 20 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
0˚C at 7.30, frost on the car roof and on sheltered grass, early sunshine just getting in under the cloud layer, gray and cold thereafter, max temp 3˚, rain starting around midday and carrying on for about 4 hours with increasingly sleety stuff. Dry interlude followed by very wet snow by 8.30pm, everything was white for a little while but soon turned to mush as the falling snow became rain again. 0˚ at 9pm, 1˚ at 10pm as the snow melted and the NW’ly wind got going. R5 coming in with a bang, as in bang on the nail, Piers!
On 20 Nov 2015, Asim wrote:
Would be nice if we could get some sustained cold going. And some snow in the London area. What are people's thoughts for December ? I'm saying westerlys to strike back which has been the case so far :(
On 20 Nov 2015, Steve Devine wrote:
Wow. What a bitterly cold weekend we have ahead of us according to the charts. Piers nailed this event again by the way! Piers said "Wet and windy with gale damage...temps : COLD" for 19 - 21st Nov, winds "N'ly gales/severe gales/storm force at sea. Sleet, snow/blizzards later in NW UK", well tonight winds will be severe gales by dawn in SE England having swept the polar cold front down across the UK. Am praying for the kids to see some snowflakes in the morning if the forecast on the computer models verifies too! It should be slightly milder next week, then back into the freezer towards next weekend. Let it snow, let it snow, LET IT SNOW!
On 19 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
6˚C at 7.30, sunny morning with a W’ly breeze, max temp 8˚, cloudier in the afternoon but dry all day. Being outside, by 4pm the incoming cold was very noticeable. MO is giving a yellow snow warning from tomorrow afternoon onwards and into Saturday, R5 started today. We still have some flowers in the garden, looking the worse for wear but we’re leaving them for the splash of colour they still give. If there is snow that might be the end of them. 5˚ by 10pm.
On 19 Nov 2015, Carl 30d Subscriber wrote:
MetO last night forecast last night was for just rain kind of south of the M4 corridor OH DEAR OH DEAR OH DEAR!!! rain was more widespread than forecast and when i looked at the UK rainfall radar on my phone it looked torrential in Kent (if there is anybody from Kent please confirm or Deny) WHY Piers R5 from the 19th - 21st interesting weekend coming up esp Saturdaywill that nasty low running down the North sea power up
On 19 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
Well guys, apparently the world has just had its warmest October on record---just in time for the Paris climate conference!
On 19 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
ROB HORLER: suggest if you are on Facebook to join the Scottish Snowpatch Group run by Iain Cameron. It is very interesting to listen to the commentary on the funicular train going upwards as it mentions the unusually heavy snowfalls of recent winters( even when the south of Britain was getting very little) There has been intermittent and occasionally substantial snow cover above 2000ft, but it has not lasted. Looks as if that might change this weekend and GFS backtracking on the warm start to December. Always a good idea to keep an eye on the Glencoe and Cairngorm webcams.
On 18 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
The storm yesterday passed through and dropped off as the evening progressed all calmer by 9pm. Our daughter heard intense rain in the early hours and it was continuing to drop some more of the wet stuff around school run this morn. Wind picked up again late morning although not as windy or gusty as yesterday, more the kind of day that makes you look like Cousin It whilst trudging the shops for Christmas bargains and blows you into a pub doorway encouraging a warm lunch that you can't really afford nor afford not too!-) some sun and blue sky with fast moving clouds alternating with dark sky with showers, max 11 deg. with a cooler edge to it today, can still hear the wind this evening sounds nice though.
On 18 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
5˚C at 7.30, grey and overcast with the obligate SW’ly breeze, dry until 11am, then heavy rain for about an hour (MO had predicted from 8-13:00 hrs) after which we began to see blue sky in the West and a bit of sunshine from time to time. Max temp 8˚, dry afternoon and evening, still cloudy but with the odd star visible, 6˚ at 9pm.
On 18 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
Steve - I didn't like Hugh at first but now it's Go Polar Bear! I heard that he might not be in the one they are filming this winter. And Alex, another stalwart from series 1. I thought the change of location for series 2 was to keep it fresh but the diamond mining company forbid them from filming as they thought it was bad for their image. Guvnor - they can frack as much as they like but nobody is interested in building gas fired power stations at the moment. Too much flip flopping of government policy to risk investing. Look how Drax got their fingers burnt over woodchip. That is what happens when you skew the market with taxes and subsidies. We need more gas though as in the last cold winter the gas was only a week from running out. Blame new labour and blue labour for the mess. Still windy but nothing like yesterday. Notched down a bit on the warmth too.
On 18 Nov 2015, Rob Horler wrote:
Interesting to see Peter Hitchens stance on the green dogma in a recent article # http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/page/2/ # (scroll down to november 8th)
Peter has recently praised Piers stance on climate and seems to be having regular battles on his twitter feed with warmists and has coined another name for them,"Warmons"!
I would be interested to hear from any of the Scottish posters on the current snow conditions, i am planning more ski touring there this winter. Apparently the ski industry brought in 32 million to Scotland last year. Not bad seeing the Independent said it would be snow free by now.
On 18 Nov 2015, theguvnor wrote:
@Gerry. Are you sure this isn't a signal for the start of fracking? Blustery, sunny, then blustery/ rainy here in Bath but mildish. Trampoline upended over night even though staked
On 18 Nov 2015, Steve Devine wrote:
Hi Gerry. I'm a fan of Ice Road Truckers and Lisa Kelly myself! A good old fashioned hard working gal who should really be modelling, not hauling pipes across 500 miles of frozen wasteland cheating death for months on end. Takes skill and a mountain of courage. Nice to see Polar and Daryl working together at the end of last season. Winds really picking up outside now. 41mph gust just recorded at Stansted, 66mph on Anglesey, not far off yesterday actually...
On 18 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
Certainly windy yesterday. Gusting through the streets of London and then at home, howling across the fields. No transport problems on my line this morning and a nice blue sky in London. Wind has abated but still the odd gusty spell. In the so-called warmest year ever, Fairbanks in Alaska - known to you if you watch Ice Road Truckers - is suffering from early low temps. The Ice Road Truckers series just started covers the polar vortex so will be interesting from a weather perspective if you don't like grizzled truckers - aprt from Lisa of course. Our nutty energy secretary plans to consult on closing down our main energy source - coal fired power stations - in 2025. Apparently reliable economic energy sources are not compatible with a modern economy.
On 18 Nov 2015, Steve Devine wrote:
Hi John. I'll step aside and let Piers answer that one but my non-technical stance is that the jet stream is currently ploughing a swathe across the UK and Barney seemed to follow it's track perfectly on the exit stream. Combined with R2 it brought power cuts to Ireland and severe gales to England/Wales. If the jet stream was in it's pre Mini Ice Age route then it would batter NW Scotland and us southerners wouldn't bat an eyelid. :-)
On 18 Nov 2015, John Blakely wrote:
Steve. Any idea why Barney powered up during an R2. It was a major storm bringing lots of disruption across parts of Ireland, Wales and England.
On 18 Nov 2015, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
as for warmer/colder to average Meto still refuse to answer my question why they cherry pick the 1961-1991 30 year average rather than the 1981-2010 one. They also refuse to answer how 2 different data sets in the CET are used as continuous to imply progression even though different weather stations are used in the data sets and why its being used to a 0. 1 degree of accuracy that the CET creator said it shouldn't be used. Also they like to hide the fact that the length of time that cover 'recorded temps' is just a blip on the ice age cycles and that according to those charts temps can go up another 4 c and still be in normal ranges. They are desperate to omit the context that we are in an inter glacial warming period. Since Houghton was in charge Meto has become a political/religious cult organisation promoting a saviour complex agenda instead of focussing on science which is why their predictions are such failures
On 18 Nov 2015, Steve Devine wrote:
I'm going to give a review of Piers' November forecast to date, trying to be careful not to reveal any spoilers of course for month end. Headline "Warm/Indian Summerish at times first half mainly in South/East" - Bang on... "Storm around 19th - 21s" - A tad late but Barney did hit during an R2 period, but 15-18th is described as "Wet and breezy in Ireland, Scotland, most of Midlands and the North" - Abigail! And I'll stop right there. Excellent forecast Piers! Any if there are any doubters out there, just look at the mean temps graph then compare it to the month we're having - uncanny!
On 17 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Temperatures today: 4 - 5 - 4˚C, clear and sunny start, SW’ly wind, clouding over by 11am, light rain for over an hour after 3pm, dry evening. One thing at this time of year is that when there is thick cloud cover like today it gets amazingly dark already by 3pm; if I wasn’t such an irritatingly cheery fellow I would be irritatingly grumpy.
On 17 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Storm Barney giving us a bashing here in Leinster. Met.ie warning switched some counties inc. here from Yellow to Orange saying it could exceed that, 80 kph but gusts are very strong and close together, power flickering at times, rain not always present, nice and noisey !-) is it an R5 period?
On 17 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
Rain yesterday after dark but dry and with a bit of sun this morning. However, it is now dull and wet in London. Still warm waiting for the train though. I don't think there can be much argument about it being a warm Autumn. There may be over how it relates to the past given the lack of trust in surface temperatures due to numerous revisions, site problems and UHI. However, there is an explanation for the warm weather which can't be linked to CO2 emissions. Not that they won't try of course.
On 17 Nov 2015, Nick, Berks. wrote:
@Not supplied. No it hasn't been a VERY warm autumn but it has been and will be a comparatively warm one. I don't know where you get your data from but MO data show that October was warmer, not cooler, than average - http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/summaries/2015/october/regional-values. Sep / Oct UK average is about -0.2 degrees vs the1981-2010 average. People (including the MO) don't compare 'month so far' with the month as a whole they compare vs the corresponding days in previous years. The CET anomaly for this month so far is around +4. Even with a cool weekend coming up, since the rest of the month will be around average for the time of the year we'll end up with an anomaly for the month in the range of +1.5-2. Nov 2010 as a whole was about -1.5. I don't keep track of how things are going across the whole of the UK but I'll be amazed if this month as a whole doesn't turn out to be rather warm overall and Autumn as a whole warmer than average. Let's see at start December.
On 17 Nov 2015, Lorraine Lister (sub) NZ wrote:
Gerry, Kent- Surrey Border - The amusing part about the so-called "climate refugee" who wanted to stay in NZ was that he used that as an excuse because he was wanted by the authorities in his own country. Fortunately as you know, he lost his case and was deported which was a relief as we'd never had heard the end of it from the warmist fraternity here.
On 17 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Dry but chilly start this morning I think we were around 6/7 deg overnight, I didn't think it was that cold out until I was trundling around town in a light jumper, seeing everyone else in a coat & scarf /hat, I realised coat out of the boot of the car might be an idea. Some very light short showers or two and again around 2.30 pm almost sleety in nature on one occasion. Wind was also lighter by around midday now a light N'ly and 7 deg at 11.50 pm 15th partly cloudy / starry..
On 16 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
Only 110 of the 760 Michelin jobs are coming to either Dundee of Stoke so that is still a huge loss and the company clearly cited energy costs. Then there are the jobs at companies that support the tyre plant. Gummer - best known for trying to shove a burger down his child during the BSE crisis, and for his investments and jobs with green companies - is trying to claim that energy costs double those in Germany play no part in the steel closures. Huhne - before he was imprisoned for lying - was given a report showing that companies would simply relocate to avoid green taxes with the net result of no (supposed) benefit to the planet but with lots of job losses and lost tax income for the UK.
On 16 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
4˚C at 7.30, rising to 6˚ max, beefy SW’ly wind all day abating only around 6pm, which often happens. Brilliant sunshine for most of the morning, a bit cloudy thereafter, clear sky again at night, 2˚ at 9pm. ==
Yesterday was milder than Saturday, we returned home in drizzle and fog which lasted all day, by 10pm it was 11˚C. == For understanding the wider context of the Paris tragedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7GAbVhjTSw Gearoid O’Colmain talking, only 10 mins and not as unrelated to COP as one might think, the propaganda machine is of a piece.
On 16 Nov 2015, Not supplied wrote:
It hasn't been a very warm Autumn, both Sept & Oct was below average according to MO data. ONLY the majority of the first half November has been warm but not all of the first half, some days have been below average temps in Nov, I've compared days & places in the UK for this Nov & the first half of Nov 2010 & many of the days are similar, so Nov at present isn't much warmer than start November 2010 and look how that changes.
November average is rather meaningless as typically the end of November is quite different to the start & the average being somewhere in the middle so the start of November always shows higher than the monthly average but as it has only been warmer than a meaningless average for most of 2 weeks while almost every other month this year including the Autumn months of end Sept & Oct have been below average, it is rather odd to jump to the conclusion that Autumn has been very warm when in fact most of Autumn so far has been cooler than the average temps
On 16 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
Aye, November forecast right on track. GFS coming into line as are the MObeeb--with the usual uncertainties caveat. GFS predicting a very warm start to December. All a bit like 1985---then we got that bitterly cold February-April period and a snowy start to June. Gerry: the Tyre jobs are coming to Dundee ( in part). Wastemonster playing one part of the colonies ( ie that's all of Britain outside of London and the Home Counties) against another. Banksters at work again.
On 16 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
A face-palm moment as US presidential candidate was asked on a tv debate if climate change was still the main global problem. His answer without pause was 'yes'. Nobody has ever been shown to die from 'climate change' and the first person to claim he was a refugee from it lost his case in NZ. A victory for the greenies - Michelin is closing its tyre plant in Northern Ireland and moving production somewhere cheaper. So no reduction in CO2 production or energy use but fewer jobs in NI and less tax income for the government. An interesting point about the UK's near blackout the other week - it wasn't cold. If we struggle to provide enough power during this very warm Autumn just think what is to come. Home generator anyone? Off to get some coal and sort out a log delivery. Windy yesterday and with the look of rain but nothing until after dark with some spits in the air. Overnight rain has cleared and some bursts of sun. Still a fair wind blowing.
On 16 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Squally & some heavy showers on and off all day, dull windy high humidity, milder around 15 deg. Dropped to 10 deg now just before midnight W'ly wind approx 40kph with gusts and showers at times, ground is fairly saturated by now for sure..
On 15 Nov 2015, Bob Weber, the woods of N. Michigan wrote:
Russ- this article will give you something to think about: http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/617587/Defenceless-Earth-200-YEARS-solar-radiation-blasts-magnetic-poles-shift. It says the Earth's field weakened over 160 years. I've seen the graphic of the change & it corresponds well to the temp increase over that time & correlates with the integral of solar activity (radiance and particle), telling me the only way the Earth's magnetic field could dissipate in 200 years is if the Sun became increasingly more active over that time. The deVries ~200 year solar activity cycle is now headed lower for decades, to be naturally followed by a rebound in solar activity - there are 60-100 year Gleissberg cycles within the longer 200 one, so we can expect a 200yr roller-coaster solar ride with several ups and downs, leading me to conclude the Earth's magnetic field will undergo both solar-induced decreases and increases, with some net change. 'Flips' may be solar related, I'm not really sure.
On 15 Nov 2015, Maria 45day sub somerset wrote:
yes dec is an interesting month indeed. Things to do, people to see, ho ho
On 15 Nov 2015, Richard T yearly sub Redcar wrote:
This month is bang on Piers Mo/beeb now following suit who needs their silly models,December forecast is not what i expected ,but needs to be seen people it could be an interesting month !!
On 15 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Forgot to mention Irish Weather Online yesterday mentioned about possible cold sleet and snow around 21st which is the first mention of it in Ireland, Met Eireann have yet to shed any light ( up to yesterday ) about it turning colder towards the end of the month, have not looked at their site yet today, as per Piers front page he is the first in the know as usual ( not surprised ) so thanks for sharing front page info as have been lost without your forecasts PC ;)
On 14 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen South) wrote:
Much colder day today, we went up Glen Esk, the northernmost of the Angus Glens; at the entrance still many autumn colours but as we got further in with only birch and some alder, they were almost completely swept clean of leaves. There was fresh snow on quite a few of the higher tops, clearly fallen yesterday and overnight. The strong westerly wind was really biting, a first foretaste of winter, was very beautiful though, like being in a different country from temperate coastal Aberdeenshire, temps between 4 and 8° going by the car thermometer. == Here is another slant on the AGW political agenda, worth a look because it illustrates some of the deeper background https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1011-patrick-wood-exposes-the-technocrats-climate-eugenics-agenda/
On 14 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
A grey dull dark day with a continuation of squally showers on and off all day and eve. The wind has increased now at 9 pm around 47-50 kph SW'ly with milder humid air again, still 12 deg. Max 13/14 today. Ditto Gerry's comment, very sad news, nicely put Gerry.
On 14 Nov 2015, Maria 45day sub somerset wrote:
wow, double wow. I read about next week a month ago on WA and have made plans accordingly. Bulls eye, very well done
On 14 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
Our thoughts go out to the families of those murdered in Paris, and to those left wounded by the attacks. Is it coincidence that COP is in Paris in 2 weeks and this a response to the elimination of Jihadi John? Does Obama still think climate change is the most serious and urgent crisis facing the world?
On 14 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
Agree Paul. So far this Autumn I have been wearing a thin Summer coat over a shirt to got to work. It was fine yesterday morning but leaving work to go for a drink at 5.30 and I was cold. Had to change trains en route and it was out with the tank top, but even then I wasn't too warm and on the walk back to my van at journey's end I was cold. I would not expect a sudden chill to be brought in from the SW. Grey skies and persistent rain since I looked out at 9am this morning. ITV weather had the rain not arriving until 10 and then light at first.
On 14 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen South) wrote:
Relates to 13 Nov (away from home just now): big change in the air yesterday, blustery SW'ly and much colder, 2°C only at 7.30, rising to 6° around midday, mostly cloudy with occasional sun, bracing stuff which I actually found enjoyable. Rain in the evening, some heavy showers. Abigail has not affected us much here in the NE, moving north now it is bringing in colder air from the WNW, which is more like November.
On 14 Nov 2015, east side wrote:
Just because the JS has been lifting balmy air from north Africa all over western Europe doesn't mean November is some sort of record warmth.
Whatever goes up, comes down.
Downside is when the JS re-emerges from it's trip UP over France/UK into the polar regions it comes back down freezing, full of humidity to blast freezing air over western Siberia & Ural region.
This year is EARLY cold.
As a result we have temperatures already below -15C c/w fluctuations of as much as 20C during 24hr periods thanks to the very unstable humidity & pressures.
1 day is heavy snow, next day +4C & roads rivers of slush.
It only takes a small flip of the JS over western EU to bring in freezing air from the East, or a northerly snow laden air stream.
MO appears to be completely oblivious, & has only started to "factor in" JS swings in the last 1-2 yrs.
If they had done this 10yrs ago, they might have at least ONE summer/winter forecast right, instead of banking on constant CO2=warm bollox.
On 13 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Raw and cold this morning 4 deg at 8 a.m feeling colder, more rain today heavy at times with dry periods, also accompanied by patches of blue sky and brief sunshine with a fresh to gusty wind, alternating between that and dark skies and more squally showers, some reports of hail sleet and a dusting of snow in Wicklow. Max a parky 8 deg today, coldest autumn day so far :) partly cloudy partly starry 6 deg. now at 9.20 pm
On 13 Nov 2015, Paul, Bedfordshire wrote:
That has got to be the coldest south westerly wind I have ever experienced (beds about 5/30pm 13/11/15. If the Atlantic is that cold already this winter is going to be a barrel of laughs.
On 13 Nov 2015, Maria 45day sub somerset wrote:
Thanks Fred. Thought so, seeing the models but I am no expert and have things to sort for next week
On 13 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
Blustery showers and cooler in London today. Hope for a nice day tomorrow for the 800th Lord Mayor's Show. WUWT is noting that one of the most famous global warming failures has been disappeared. David Viner's famous 'children won't know what snow is' comment in the Independent article is no longer on their website. Research suggests that it is not by accident as other articles before and after still appear. Luckily, on the internet you are never alone and Viner's famous gaff have been preserved for posterity. Apparently searches for it shot up when we had snowfall.
On 13 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
MARIA: In terms of targets of prediction, to my mind Piers was very good/excellent for most of September, October and the start of November. Not quite as good this week, but what was suggested for Scotland 10-14th has come just a bit early. I suppose no specific mention of Abigail is a fly in the ointment, but overall I'm satisfied--and of course he never claims to be 100% accurate in the first place. Those 70, 75, 80% etc are usually within the bounds of reasonability. The MObeeb and other standard models just can't put their knickers on by comparison.
On 13 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
RUSS: please remember that mystery objects like this are caused by anthropogenic CO2 emissions and have got nothing to do with natural astronomical processes. Only by building more windfarms can we hope stop them. Get real man!!
On 13 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
Mystery object to hit Earth story over on spaceweather. Now coincidences are one thing but when a human gives an object a name, then coincidence becomes a rareity. The objects name? WT1190OF or 'Oh WTF 911'? I wonder if it will drop in the ocean or maybe not. What would a 2 metre wide bolide travelling at 19,000 mph'ish do to a major city in a war zone?? Could open a great big can of worms... Just in time for Christmas!
On 12 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Really heavy rain this morning and obviously lots of water on the roads with small scale flooding in places around our back roads. Windy and gusty here with a tree down up the road earlier but the West and North bearing the expected brunt with thunder in the mix there and the worst of the wind and flooding, mega downpour again at midday with some slight clearing and calmer late this aft. max 12 deg. a little windy again now at 23.36pm with squally showers on n off all evening the cold air has made inroads and 6 deg. feeling colder now tonight, still a yellow warning in place here.
On 12 Nov 2015, Fred wrote:
Maria
Yes is short answer.
On 12 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
3˚C at 7.30, slight frost on the car roof but nowhere else, had been a clear night but the day started cloudy and stayed that way, bar a few bits of sunshine in the afternoon. The SW’ly wind got going by 11am to quite a blustery speed but surprisingly abated by 6pm, contrary to what we’d been expecting from all the warnings that were mentioned on the radio this morning, yellow wind warning still in force for NE Scotland. Looking at the radar sequence, there had been huge amounts of rain in the west and north, reaching us by about 6pm, but with less intensity. Max temp 10˚, down to 6˚ by 10pm, clear sky by that time.
On 12 Nov 2015, Steve,Dorset,UK. Sub wrote:
I managed to cut the grass today it was so warm for November it was unreal, the grass had grown to 4" or so 100mm to the Europeans among us, cut it over without picking it up, then had lunch and by which time it had dryed enough to pick it up into the grass box,the grass was lush and juicy just like the spring really wierd.
Have you noticed the skies of late glowering greys to black, creepy,Dry all day.
P.S. Do you think piers is to grand( joking) to have a odd word on the blog, would be nice to hear his views on things on the odd occasion especially as this Paris freebie is around the corner.
On 12 Nov 2015, Maria 45day sub somerset wrote:
Are we still on target for what was said in the november forecast, in just over a week? No clues, just yes or no would do fine. I have been on the allotment this morning, it is unreal, so many new weeds, huge tennis ball sprouts, massive swedes, everything looks soft and floppy really, like they have grown too quickly. My preps for ahead are finished. I need cold, I want to hibernate
On 12 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
Portsmouth was warm!! Folk walking around in mini-dresses and t-shirts, like it was early September. Quite a shock when I arrived home to a chilly wind and showers. Still lots of green leaves around in the sheltered areas. ..... Something to remember in these rapidly changing times, is that extreme changes in weather are going to become far more frequent and severe, just like the warmists tell us. Its still not our fault , but what will be our fault is if we don't start to plan our futures. Think back to the 60s & 70s when the last cooling occurred. Only a slight cooling but we had dull wet summers and foot deep snow in winter turning to slush in a matter of days. Gales being regular through October and November. Well its only going to get worse so start thinking ten years into the future.
On 12 Nov 2015, Lorraine Lister (sub) NZ wrote:
NZ has felt the effects of the R4 with a cold southerly that has moved up the country with thunder and hail in some places. Fortunately no hail for us. November is a tricky month for us here in the Tasman District and last year's hail in early November destroyed a lot of pip and stone fruit. Tuesday was hot, 22 deg then yesterday about 18 or 19 and today about 16 with a forecast low of 4 deg tonight. Not good for young tomatoes, beans and zucchini so once again I've covered them.
On 11 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
7˚C at 7.30, pretty cloudy all day, mostly stratocumulus, with the sun breaking through every now and then, dry except for some light rain in early evening, max temp 10˚, light wind mostly from S, 6 by 10pm. Feeling a bit more like November today, though still not very cold.
On 11 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Mixedbag of dullness cloud drizzle and a few short welcome sunny spells with fluffy white clouds, not as mild or dry as yesterday around 12 deg. today feeling a bit fresher, Orange wind warning up on met.ie for Donegal and others, Yellow for here in Leinster n co for the next period of weather. Hope it gets cold soon
On 11 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
Carl - good point. With the first named storm heading here at the end of the week there was the usual comment from the great Met that the details are unsure as yet. Who knows, there might be a factor that they don't recognise that will affect the strength of the storm. Berries - down in Surrey Rowans and Hawthorns are abundant with berries this autumn.
On 10 Nov 2015, Carl 30d Subscriber wrote:
Oh brilliant comment east side you hit the nail right on the head about the BBC and MetO if the Met office cannot predict even 1 week ahead how can we even give any credence to what they say would be the future climate in say fifty years time every countryfile forecast they make on Sundays always has the same old saying."There is a great deal of un-certainty about the forecast for the end of the week.What a warm November we have had (so far) and YES!!! Piers had forecasted as well.Lets hope it snows in Paris for the Carbon delusionists conference starting on the 30th.Just get a crucifix hold it up and start singing frosty the snowman and they will soon start melting
On 10 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
9˚C at 7.30, good sunshine until 10, thereafter well cloudy with stratus, some of them dark purple. Exceptionally mild day (oh to be in Scotland, Steve :-), 14˚ max, still and beautiful with all the glorious autumn colours; we had to go inland and noticed that even the sycamores were really yellow, with us near the coast their leaves just go brown and shrivel up because our nights are not so cold. 10˚ by 10pm, bit of SW’ly breeze.
On 10 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Kent-Surrey border wrote:
Anthony Watts of WUWT is a member of the American Geophysical Union and usually attends their annual meeting to keep a check on what the warmists are up to. This time, he is also presenting a paper on surface temperature stations. In a crowd exercise he helped to check on some of the US temp stations to see if they complied. Lots didn't and it was quite shocking where some were sited. With the MetO's latest rigging of the figures it would be a good plan to discredit surface and sea temps leaving just the satellite records - the ones showing no warming for nearly 20 years. No surprise that those working for the BBC at the Dr Goebbels Memorial Building are in overdrive pumping out the propaganda.
On 10 Nov 2015, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
the jedi mind trick phrase they use is its warmer since 'pre industrial age' as if temps are linked to industry and not ice age cycles. It is ESSENTIAL for them to de link temps from ice age cycles as if they don't exist. Its been getting warmer for 12000 years which is why the north sea happened and why we are not under 1 mile of ice. Which bit of industry caused the warming for that to happen?
According to ice age cycles it can get 4c warmer and still be in normal temp ranges for ice age cycles. You will find all of their temp ranges are short range 30 yr or 100 yr because if you put thier readings in the ice age cycle charts its just a little blip.
On 10 Nov 2015, Steve,Dorset,UK. Sub wrote:
The British government’s devious, cynical, hypocritical energy policy has just unravelled horribly – with the leak to The Ecologist of a private ministerial letter which admits that Britain hasn’t a hope of meeting its legally-mandated “clean energy” targets.
Now what a surprise NOT. The BBC have become liars in their own right. As soon as I hear the words global warming from this lot of clowns I listen and laugh at them, they think we believe them, Fools.
On 10 Nov 2015, Graham (sub. east midlands) wrote:
Mo/beeb EXPERTS in overdrive about Global Warming oops sorry Climate Change without a shred of scientific evidence on show ?? The definition of an EXPERT is A DRIP UNDER PRESSURE !! Keep up the good work Piers.
On 10 Nov 2015, east side wrote:
Oh Grief!
Did you hear the BBC yesterday going ON & ON about global warming & how those idiots at the met office have been claiming global temperatures have risen 1C since pre-industrial times!?
WTF is this??
They are escaped from a lunatic asylum & they think we are as nuts as them???
They didn't pause in the same breath (all night repeater on World service take note!)...that THANK GOODNESS temperatures have risen since the 18th century because that was the period of the last Maunder or Dalton minima.
If we were still back there, nobody's central heating would cope & neither would the national grid.
It was freezing & the Thames was frozen over in winter (just like the French River Seine was for weeks in 1984!)
Strikes me, if an incompetent band of twits who can't even get a single summer weather forecast call correct in nearly a decade, or the arrival of a hurricane in the 80s, how on earth do they expect to be credible?
Oh I forgot it's BBC, masters of lies/cover-ups!
On 10 Nov 2015, Steve,Dorset,UK. Sub wrote:
O to be in England now that summers or something like that, November can be a mild month this one is exceptional in it,s warmth but you never know what's around the corner, the wind dried the grass yesterday which needs a good cut but I could not get the ride on mower out as I had builders vans parked all over the place never ceases to amaze me how many vans it takes to do a simple job, hope to do the grass later this week so fingers crossed, 16c this morning at six am.cloud with spicks of rain in the air.
On 10 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Rain continued on and off all day (9th) till late afternoon, grey dull day, windy at times also but mild 15/16 deg and not dropped much at all tonight heaps of midges around outside at 12.30 a.m and dark clouds hinting at a bit more rain to come yet..actually just started raining again at 1 a.m seems the prime time for it this week!
On 09 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
7˚C at 7.30, beefy WSW wind, overcast but no rain to speak of, brightening up by midday with full sun for quite a while, max temp 11˚, somewhat foggy evening, 9˚ at 10pm. ==RON, having looked out for seeds, there is definitely less on sycamores than previous years, practically nothing on ash and there were very few rowan berries this year in our forest. So now we can test whether the presence, absence & quantity of tree seed is any indication of the winter to come; we’ll know by spring :-)
On 09 Nov 2015, Asim wrote:
The UK in my opinion won't see a winter this year...again! Very mild wet and stormy no snow especially the southern part of England.. 2009 /2010 is a distant memory. That probably won't be repated for another 30 years or so. If you want cold well USA will be your best buy nothing new there Hop on a plane. Orhetwise everybody enjoy mild weather save money on heating.
On 09 Nov 2015, David (Yorkshire) wrote:
As per my last post re a mild winter, November is very simular to November 2014 as it is very mild and the same areas that were affected by heavy rain this time last year are getting hit again. This is all down to the euro high and if this pattern persists (as it did last year) the south of the uk will see no snow!!!!
Last November was one of the mildest on record and this one will beat it.
On 09 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
You just knew the usual suspects would be hard at work fiddling the figures in time for Paris. There they all are - Stott, Allen, Haigh, CRU, UEA, MetO, Grantham. Our 'lack of energy' secretary, Amber Dud said something true..by accident of course. Climate change is a serious threat to our economy. Just ask around in Redcar and at the other steel plants. Ask other high energy use industries how the government policy of inflating energy costs is working out for them. Or check out the piece in the Telegraph by Charles Moore about last Wednesday when the wind didn't blow companies were asked to cut electricity use and emergency power was bought at £2500 a unit instead of the usual £60!!! And it will only get worse. Meanwhile a peer-reviewed paper produced 6 years ago bewailing the loss of plankton has now been identified to have an error of 40% that nobody noticed. Except for Willis Eschenbach whose instinct said it was wrong but couldn't prove why other than sea experience.
On 09 Nov 2015, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
now, as Paris CO2 fest is near, is the time the co2ers will ramp up the newspaper headlines they have been saving for the past year. Headless chicken time.
On 09 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
i see my name mentioned. I was busy over the weekend - in my flowing robes and mounted on my camel in downtown Cairo - or Surrey as we know it. My manager in an apiarist and reports that they are still active in Kent. It certainly was warm as no fire over the weekend and not a thought to putting on the CH. Just happy at less gas consumption for this week compared to last year. Rain was a big part of Saturday with a blustery wind swaying the eucalyptus big time. A friendly pheasant strolled up the garden in the lee of the hedge to check it out. Returned yesterday for another look. Drier yesterday but with cloud. Visiting friend noted how that if we were to work in the garden the top layer would be off to give just a t-shirt. Fish still very active and hungry indicating water still warm. Beaming sunrise into bathroom this morning. Some cloud but sunny spells. Brick wind though.
On 09 Nov 2015, steven wright wrote:
just heard on bbc news that the climate is over 1c higher then it should and if it gets to 2c it could be dangerius i havent seen the december forecast for the uk yet so im only guessing but i reckon mother nature knows how to cool things down so im going for a repeat of december 2010 that will wind the mobeeb up
On 09 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Forgot to mention a fireball was spotted around 8.13 pm tonight Sunday night in the sky over Ireland, was quite starry around then wish I'd been out n about for longer then as I've only seen one before by chance, rain has started again around 1a.m
On 09 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Last night (sat night ) was calm for a time then after 1.am the wind increased and then the rain came again, became milder out at 2.30 a.m wind dropped and rain cleared by this morning grey skies gave way to some very short sunny spells this aft. max 14 deg 10 now after midnight partly cloudy..
On 08 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
4˚C overnight, 7˚ at 7.30 grey and overcast with a strengthening SW’ly wind, rain starting at midday, going on to around 5pm, max temp 10˚, down to 4˚ under a clear and starry sky. == RON: I haven’t specifically looked at tree seeds yet, but now that you mention it I haven’t noticed a lot of seed on the sycamores on my daily peregrinations with the dog, they usually hang heavy with their double wings, I’ll check tomorrow. We’ve also had glorious days, interspersed with dreich, which I don’t mind too much, always glad when the annual growing toil is over.
On 08 Nov 2015, Matt wrote:
Piers, have you ever attempted to demonstrate the SLAT theory in a lab? Could you rig up a cloud chamber with moist air and apply a magnetic field to it, or something? Perhaps you could have a specific fund-raising campaign for this. I'm impatient for your theories and weather-forecasting to become properly recognised (or do the Corbyn's like being on the outside looking in?). There might be a noble prize in it for you.
On 08 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
PADDY: again can't help noticing the regional differences despite the fairly similar altitude and latitude. Here we have had one of the longest and glorious autumns I've seen in 40 years, with trees colouring up early and displaying colours so vibrant they reminded me of my times in New Hampshire and Maine. I suppose it was the sunny days and the frequent but not too sharp frosts. Now after the wind and rain of recent days ( though not as strong or heavy as the MObeeb forecasts) there has been a massive drop off demonstrating the American term 'The Fall'. What is strikingly obvious this year is the very poor seed yield, even in Sycamore and Norway Maple. It's back to the grey 'dreich' so typical of November.
On 08 Nov 2015, Henk wrote:
Check earth wind map. Sea surface temperature anomaly north east of Greenland (small spot) is 13.4 degree positive. Volcano activity?
76.72° N, 2.94° E ✕
120° @ 0.03 m/s
13.4 °C
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/ocean/surface/currents/overlay=sea_surface_temp_anomaly/orthographic=306.02,81.35,671
Pierce?
On 07 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Incredible starry sky here last night late eve. for a time. Heavy rain after 1 a.m great to listen to beating down on the window, rain continued varying in intensity through to mid morning then clearing to give a nicer afternoon with some sunny spells for a short time, remained mild throughout the night and today, max 12/13 deg today around 9 deg starry and partly cloudy now at 10.45 pm
On 07 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
6˚C at 7.30, feeling cooler than of late, grey, misty and rain soon setting in, some of it heavy, throughout the morning - so, Russ, no chance of seeing any aurora (there wasn’t any last night when I came home around 11pm) - W’ly wind, bright and sunny afternoon, but with the sun already low in the sky it has lost its summer power, so it feels like a gear shift in the weather. 4˚ at 10pm under a clear sky. Simply amazing how many leaves are still on the trees, the hazel hedge around our garden is still in summery green.
On 07 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
In reference to the posts on nuclear power >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34723882 << Thousands of years folks and the number of deaths and life changing injuries from the coal and oil industry's makes nuclear power production immensely safer than those archaic methods of power production.
On 07 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
Bigger and bigger and bigger they grow, just how big nobody knows, but they may be a portent of metres of snow, and deal mankinds future a disastrous blow! .......... >> http://www.spaceweather.com/images2015/07nov15/coronalhole_sdo_blank.jpg?PHPSESSID=bpi413vi52opnf3imdiodvl6u7 << Bob / Piers If coronal holes appeared at both solar poles, and they were both huge, could the ensuing solar wind storm experienced by the Earth cause a pole shift? I'm just thinking of the effect on the Earth - Sun umbilical portal. Would it not act like an electrical conduit and supply vast amounts of electric charge into the Earth, with aurora down to the equator? Could this swing the Earth's magnetic field strongly enough to make it flip? Obviously this must have been witnessed in the distant past but maybe this is the first time we have monitored it happening and understood what we are witnessing? Note to self: Back up pc and keep disc in steel safe (faraday cage) all data insulated from damage.
On 07 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
Another somersault from GFS, now going for a warm southerly 18-21st or so. If they change the projection every day, then they can claim they got one right. It's a farce
On 07 Nov 2015, Henk wrote:
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/ocean/surface/currents/overlay=sea_surface_temp_anomaly/orthographic=306.02,81.35,671
Latest check...11.2 degrees anomaly directly near the icesheets of Greenland..never seen this before..
On 07 Nov 2015, Henk wrote:
Check earth wind map. Sea surface temperature anomaly north east of Greenland (small spot) is almost 10 degrees. Volcano activity?
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/ocean/surface/currents/overlay=sea_surface_temp_anomaly/orthographic=306.02,81.35,671
Pierce?
On 07 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
The aurora map on spaceweather.com looked awesome this morning at 7am Paddy. Kp6 Storm and almost overhead for New Yorkers. So it could have been overhead in northern Scotland last night. I'm wondering if you did see it but maybe misinterpreted it as wispy high cloud or mist patches moving across you field of vision??
On 07 Nov 2015, Lorraine Lister (sub) NZ wrote:
We seem to be missing the major R periods in NZ at the moment. The cold southerly that came through this week (when Christchurch recorded its lowest temp in 60 years) was during the NSF period in the 2 days prior to the R5. The weather has been mixed this spring around the country. In our region, Nelson/ Tasman its been quite mild. Following this week's southerly the night temps did dip quite sharply for a few nights, a bit marginal for the outdoor tomatoes so had to cover them to keep up the warmth.
On 06 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
9˚C at 7.30, foggy, mild and still. At around 9.30 the fog lifted and we could actually see the clouds, a little rain and in the afternoon we even managed to get a few patches of blue sky, S’ly wind fairly got going. Max temp 12˚, clouds lifting as darkness fell. Had to go inland tonight to a place where there are hardly any lights, the beauty of the starry sky was overwhelming, I had trouble identifying some constellation because they were among so many stars that are ordinarily not visible. 5˚ at 11pm, hardly any cloud.
On 06 Nov 2015, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks 51N) wrote:
I wondered why snow patches were in the news again. Seems Iain Cameron finalised the figures and has released the update last month. My original story from August and the hockey stick chart can be seen here ==== https://weatheraction.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/massive-increase-in-scottish-snow-patches/
On 06 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
Paddy....butterflies....and I saw a wasp...yes a WASP feeding on flowers opening on a shrub at Tamworth station just north east of Birmingham. Don't see many wasps around in the first week of November, even this far south. I'll bet Gerry Surrey/Kent still has hives full of bees. I'll be in the deep south - Plymouth - on Tuesday, so I'll report on anything unusual, like nesting swallows or migrating wildebeast...... Didn't enjoy the rain too much today but at least it washed the bonfire night pollution out of the air. I wonder if a study has been done into the toxicity of the air with all those millions of tons of pyrotechnics being burned?? There's always someone burning plastic round our way on the 5th, so there's that to consider too! ......Piers...France is having it warm and dry under that high pressure by the way, just 50 - 100 miles farther south....
On 06 Nov 2015, Bob Weber, N MI USA subscriber wrote:
The sun in October was potent with TSI up & over 1361.25 warming threshold most of the month, http://lasp.colorado.edu/data/sorce/total_solar_irradiance_plots/images/tim_level3_tsi_24hour_3month_640x480.png - pushing UAH (world), US, and UK temps up. HadSST3 Oct global was down by .025 to .7, with the tropics only up by .009, and Oct OHC was down slightly by 0.01 to 1.03. Solar F10.7cm flux ended Oct higher (and started Nov high) but only averaged 104.1; the last four months averaged 105, and for 2015 the ave is 118.8 sfu/day. As of yesterday the USAF expected F10.7 to ave 111 to Nov 27, and for Nov 28 through the Paris conference, for it to average 90/day. If they're right and flux gets down to 85 for the week of the conference, temps will follow. SSTs slightly warmed in some areas from recent solar heat @ http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2015/anomnight.11.5.2015.gif. Smoothed TSI bump started in mid-Sept and will prolong the El Nino a bit. Warm in east US; cool west today.
On 06 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
Rain! Set in around lunchtime and continued into the evening. A nice firework display appeared just over the fields and while watching it from an upstairs window noted there was a strong SW wind. Cloudbase was low which reflected the colours nicely. I think the highest rockets may even have gone into the cloud. Grey and damp start but no rain until London. Certainly warm though. Not in Christchurch NZ though as the lowest temp for 60yrs recorded. Or in Ushuaia - noted for the Top Gear special - where snow has fallen. More detail will be posted here no doubt from thos up north but over 600 snowpatches remained in Scotland in August. Over double last year and a huge increase since the count started in 2008. NOAA report published linking extreme weather in 2014 to human activities because they think it probably is. No evidence. Chalk it up as another COP propaganda document.
On 06 Nov 2015, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
BBC 3 day 98% accurate? Having done a test of their forecasts i would say more like 20%. It just depends what they call accurate and if its moveable. If you took a note of their forecast NOW for three days ahead and held them to it you would find its about 20-30% ie it has a negative bias because random would be closer to 50%. However what they do on the forecasts is to either make it vague or include every possible option and then whent the weather comes they say 'see we predicted it'. Basically the default for meto driven weather is 'warmer/drier than average' mantra. Having studied their hall of mirrors forecasts i would say anyone relying on BBC/meto is blind more than 12 hours out.
On 06 Nov 2015, Ron Greer( subscriber) wrote:
CRAIG M: lo and behold GFS now returning to a prediction of colder weather for much of the middle of November and quite a sharp Arctic blast 18-21st. Piers forecast also predicted some colder snaps ( no detail here of course for non subscribers). GFS also showing cold air reaching Paris--but just a bit early!
On 06 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland Leinster ) wrote:
It is mild this morning Craig,14 here in Laois Ireland, overcast but dry atm with a light sw breeze, waiting for a load of logs although only lighting and loading the boiler for about 2-3 hrs an evening or every other eve. to top up hot water and take the edge off the house so no need for heating in the day and so as to not let temp drop as requires more to heat to bring it back up in the long run, Paddy we grow lambs lettuce it's amazing stuff we grow it for winter and again at the start of spring as it's a great gap filler for cooler conditions while waiting for other lettuce, kids also love it, cloud breaking up and sun sneaking through now giving some blue sky in places, still have sweet peas out unreal but nice for the time of year..
On 06 Nov 2015, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks 51N) wrote:
Ron - it indeed did. I've updated the post with S0's daily update as looks like the flare (an M3 not like the X-flare hits in earlier SCs) caused a few probs around globe ===
https://weatheraction.wordpress.com/2015/11/04/solar-flare-knocks-out-swedish-radar/ === wet+miserable here after the fog+mist (good for mushrooms). We seem to be catching the Atlantic fronts but it's so mild, unusually so [netweather] === "It’s a rather mild start to Friday, with temperatures as high as 15C at 6am across Cornwall and County Kerry, Ireland, 12-14C widespread across England, Wales, Ireland and Northern Ireland. We could see temperatures reach the high teens across southern areas this afternoon and tomorrow too, despite cloud and rain. With the very mild but unsettled conditions continuing over the weekend and into next week too, there’s potential that this month could be up there with the mildest of Novembers on record if this continues unless we see a much colder second half."
On 05 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
9˚C at 7.30, repeat performance of yesterday, dreich but warm at 11˚, right up to 10pm, no rain. Practically still during the morning but a fresh S’ly wind all afternoon. Though it was mild and working outside meant breaking into a sweat, the minute I stopped for any length of time I got cold quickly in the breeze, great cold-catching weather. The lambs lettuce/corn salad I had sown for consuming next spring is growing like mad and we’re eating it by the bucketful.
On 05 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland Leinster ) wrote:
Rain early this morn. Continued all morning, loads of water on the roads, cleared early afternoon remained grey with a hint of the sun behind, max 13 deg. High humidity.. The leaves are well on their journey to the ground now here, leaves everywhere kids have had heaps of fun hiding in the piles of them before the wet weather returned, can't wait for the first proper total widespread frost and jogging along an icy road.
On 05 Nov 2015, Richard Pinder wrote:
Exiting new developments for predicting future Climate Change. The average Hale Magnetic Cycle is 21.3 years long, So (1) The “Global Warming” Hale Cycle was 20 years long and ended in 1996 (2) The “ Pause/Hiatus” Hale Cycle was 21.7 years long and ended in 2008. (3) The “Global Cooling” Hale Cycle will be 24.5 years long and end in 2021.That prediction is as good as predicting the Orbits of the Planets. To understand how, read this contribution from Tim Channon https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2015/03/29/empirical-confirmation-of-solar-planetary-theory-solar-polar-field-evolution-matches-2011-prediction
On 05 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
Oh yes, GFS now back tracking on cold snap penetration 18th-20th!
On 05 Nov 2015, Gerry 45d 223ft Surrey/Kent border wrote:
Russ - thanks for mist/dew comments. Regarding worn out rails, the best place for them is currently where they are as it would probably COST millions to remove them. When new steel is in oversupply, scrap prices plummet. Try seeing what happens if you need to scrap a car. I was lucky that by forgetting to timestamp their quotation email I got £60 when the current rate was nothing. It may even be that you have to pay again and people took to dumping cars to avoid the costs. Grey and miserable today and yesterday with signs of a good fall of rain last night judging by saturated fields.
On 04 Nov 2015, Maria ( Ireland ) wrote:
Love the sound of mist weather report ;) Misty here the last couple of days, some small bursts of sunshine both days nicer today than yesterday although still a lot of grey cloud around, max 12 deg. so not as warm and chilly when the cloud blinded over, 8 deg. now at 11pm and foggy out.
On 04 Nov 2015, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
7˚C at 7.30, 4D+F = dull, damp, drizzly & dreich + fog all day with some light rain during the morning, winds variable S - NE, max temp 8˚ (phew!), still that at 9pm. Hard to believe that yesterday we were basking in sunshine. And I forgot to mention on Monday that I watched an admiral butterfly feeding on mullein flowers which are still going.
On 04 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
GFS certainly going for quite a stiff cold blast 18th-20th
On 04 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
just heard from a Swedish friend that radar systems in Sweden have been affected by a solar flare--anyone else heard anything?
On 04 Nov 2015, Andy wrote:
We experienced the same phenomenon as Piers on Sunday night, my daughter called me into her bedroom because of a strange noise, we both stood still for a minute then I opened the window and put my hand out expecting to feel rain drops but there were none! I then realised that water was pouring off of the large tree adjacent to our house.
On 04 Nov 2015, Ron Greer wrote:
No good just talking amongst ourselves, please remember to post any items countering AGW claims on Facebook/Twiiter to get access to a wider audience.
On 04 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
That was me by the way ....
On 04 Nov 2015, Not supplied wrote:
Gerry S/K.... Steel is in plentiful supply. Just look out of the train window at the millions of lengths of old worn-out rails lying dormant at the track-side. Literally millions of tons of the stuff. The sale of which could be used to reduce rail fares!! I suppose they'll be needing some of it to produce more rails for the new HS routes across the country?
On 04 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
Steve / Dorset 16th Oct comment Re: Rolls Royce and submarine power......... I read an article several years ago by an American in the nuclear industry, who said that instead of having huge hungry power stations and millions of miles of HV cables and millions of ugly pylons, we should instead use small local nuclear power generators supplying each town/city or part thereof. If a unit fails for any reason, the rest of the town/city will still have power. He said that the technology has existed since the 1950s... Safe? Place them underground for total peace of mind. Lets face it, we haven't really needed coal or oil since the 50s, but too many of the elite either own or are major shareholders in oil and coal companies. Nuclear, in the long term doesn't produce enough profit. Too simple, cheap and efficient, and into the distant future to boot. Japanese recycling technology now means that we have enough resources to keep the whole world nuclear for the next 3,000 years....
On 04 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
Trees are such interesting plants. Very large plants, with very 'woody' stems, but plants all the same. They can also become very confused, just like their tiny counterparts. Our strawberry plants near the back door are still lush and flowering. We have some peas still lush and growing...I kid you not! As I travel around the country I've noticed that over 50% of the trees were still lush and green, with most of their leaves still attached. This has changed over the past week to a more usual state of affairs. But I have always associated golden leaves with very chilly nights, and leaf loss due to wind and frost. But this year is strange, because we've had slight frosts and very chilly nights for many days at a time(?), yet the majority of the leaves have stayed put. Could this be due to the sunlight and warmth in the daytime confusing the heck out of the trees? Then the leaves fell suddenly leaving hillsides a patchwork of gold where the leaves all fell directly under their tree...
On 04 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
Bob. Your comment on the 14th Oct Re: "The birds go south when it's too cold (or maybe because they can sense less intense sunlight....)" ....... Or could it be that the sun's colour looks different to them, or maybe just the sky colour? Some/most birds can see ultraviolet light. Kestrels can see the urine trails of mice and shrews because their urine reflects ultraviolet light. Bees see the centres of flowers utilising ultraviolet light too. So if the UV output of the sun drops sharply as winter approaches, maybe this could be the trigger that causes a mass avian evacuation of the Arctic Circle?
On 04 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
cont'd ..... Same on the Scottish islands, where the weather can be misty and drizzly and chilly and dull and horrible (dreich) for several weeks at a time, almost without a break. This is often caused by cold nights chilling the land-mass under cloudless high pressure skies, then milder, moist air pushing in from the sea, being chilled by the cold land, then condensing out to form mist. The Isle of Skye is called the misty isle for good reason, but the Hebrides and Orkneys can be just as bad. But whenever I visit Surrey it feels like I'm in Cairo, the difference in north/south temps being noteworthy at any time of year.
On 04 Nov 2015, Russ NE Derbyshire wrote:
Gerry - Surry/Kent Re: wind and mist comment Oct 13th. You say that the wind prevented mist forming or heavy dew on the grass. I think it may have felt chilly due to the wind but the actual temperature must have been high enough to have prevented mist and dew. Because here in deepest sheep country Derbyshiteshire, we can have very strong and persistent winds all day, the grass can be soaked with heavy dew and the fog can last all day too. But if the temperature is below the 'dew-point' then dew and fog will form. Just above and it won't. There's only a few degrees in it and humans, with their modern high-tec clothing, are notoriously useless at determining temperature levels and/or changes. It has to be a 2 to 3°c change for us to notice. Unlike the Scottish Midge which I believe is capable of noticing a change of just 0.3°c. ..... Cont'd
On 04 Nov 2015, Steve,Dorset,UK sub wrote:
Blimey Piers you are waxing lyrical but yes it was very misty with a head torch on you could see all the mist droplets hanging in the air, as for housing if all the hordes invading the whole of Europe have to be housed then you will have to get used to cheek and jowls living a bit like Hong Kong, our political elite have lost the plot on immigration totally.
They have to face up to the fact that to many to quickly will cause great trouble, very mild here but so very dull could do with a bit of sunshine.
On 04 Nov 2015, @Piers_Corbyn twitter address wrote:
THE SOUND OF MIST! To make a change a Weather report from me, Roehampton, Danebury Avenue Sun night Nov 1st /2nd, 0243 am or thereabouts. Quiet, little traffic, surveying eerie lights in thick fog from balcony with son. It sounded as if it was raining but there was no rain. Fog was condensing on leaves of trees and dripping off so fast it sounded like rain as it hit other leaves or ground. This would not happen so well in polluted places because the supersaturated water vapour finds dirt particles and form drizzle droplets more easily. Aiir in Roehampton, Alton estate, is very clean - next to the huge Richmond park to South/West. This is why property developers want to seize and destroy the (council) estate to turn it into private luxury flats with magnificent vistas and long-life giving air (av life is 5yrs less in polluted areas). The lying corrupt Wandsworth (Tory) Council {like Labour Southwark (Aylesbury est) & Lambeth (Cressingham Gs)} are hand in glove with this theft & murder.
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'Dead-center' Earth-Facing Coronal Hole 4th and 5th Oct http://spaceweather.com/
