On 27 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
13˚C at 7.30, rising to 16˚, cloudy all day in a strong SW wind with intermittent light rain around midday, still 13˚ by 10pm. Really warm, though we can't match Nigella's 20˚, we're too far north and have to contend with the Lows held at bay by the continental High; shouldn't complain when I see how much rain has fallen in the West in the last few days. It's still out west but MO is forecasting very wet here for tomorrow, I wonder though whether it'll get here or still be blocked; still R4 for the next couple of days. One advantage of the relatively warm weather we've had this month is that we haven't had to light our wood stove yet, which we normally do around 16th Oct.
On 27 Oct 2014, Steve (sub) wrote:
Well the other things they might use Russ are viruses - something like the one or two in the news right now. We all know how much governments like to "research" them in all manner of secure secretive establishments. That would strike at crowded countries and crowded cities (and those in the know could easily move away from these). Glad I live well away from them, have a very social and family circles and work outdoors. Of course strong airborne ones would tie back in with our main theme - weather!
On 27 Oct 2014, Russ subs NE Derbyshire wrote:
Steve - re: "What astounds me (all my long life) is the ability of those in charge (of anything) to happily sail ever closer to an "iceberg" of a problem while not doing anything about it." ............. You have to ask, 'who stands to gain from it'. Saving coal and oil because it pollutes the planet and creates lots of CO2, is just a smokescreen. The so called 'fossil fuels' are being 'conserved', but for whom? The top echelons of society, so that when the cold hits us, THEY can stay warm. The reluctance to build lots of nuclear power plants is because they need the population reduced. When it very cold and there's no food, who dies first? The poorest in society, and the bulldozer works its way through society from the bottom upwards. Don't require any new world wars. Just sit back and let mother nature do all the work for you!! The elite understand that iceberg you talk of very well. They scare us with that iceberg and know its next and every other move, and also our fate....
On 27 Oct 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Same again today max temp. 15 deg. 14 now @ 17.30 P.M
Only a little breezy today but still overcast and high humidity all day, mild enough for a 3/4 top with T-shirt over, lovely walk in the woods, trees def. on the way to being bare here..
On 27 Oct 2014, Ron Greer wrote:
CRAIG: I see from the Iceagenow site that the Landscheidt sunspot count on the 21st Oct was just 3 and you are now reporting 147. Is this a manifestation of a burst of solar activity or a artefact of a different counting system?
On 27 Oct 2014, Gill1066 East Sussex (sub) wrote:
Trees heavily laden with orange leaves in Sussex by the sea. I hope night temps drop next month as I would like to light the wood burner without roasting. I doubt I will light it this week. Here's hoping Piers 30d will have just that!
On 27 Oct 2014, Nigella - subscriber wrote:
Obs from East Berks. WOW - proper Indian Summer today. 20 degrees, can hardly believe I'm typing that on 27th Oct! Blue skies, barely a breath of wind - stunning day here in East Berks - think we may get one more tomorrow.
On 27 Oct 2014, Alister wrote:
@ Rob & Rohan None of the solar flares resulted in CME's as yet (to the surprise of many) but if I understand the basic idea correctly, the influence of the sun has the potential to 'turbocharge' weather events that are taking place on Earth. Guessing again here but I expect there is a large degree of probability involved rather than certainty, as with any system with multiple variables.
On 27 Oct 2014, Lorraine Lister (sub) NZ wrote:
Overall its been a relatively quiet month for NZ during the R periods - nothing majorly unusual for October until this current R4 with heavy rain in parts of the country http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10664446/Front-brings-heavy-rain-warnings. Storms in Melbourne, Australia today http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/storms-in-melbourne-thousands-without-power-commuters-face-transport-chaos-20141027-11c914.html. Some of you may remember the BBC/ Met Office meteorologist Daniel Corbett. Unfortunately we now have him as a TV weather presenter in NZ. Somehow I guessed his background before he came to NZ just by the way he presents the weather with associated remarks.
On 26 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Stiff SW'ly breeze all day again, abating only late evening, mild with 8˚C at 7.30, rising to 13˚. Cloudy all day but not cold, with occasional drizzle, 11˚ by 10pm. == Since it is now the end of a weather period, R4 (blocked, therefore all the rain is in W) today, and also the end of the Indian Summer (aka Louis, as in end of 'Casablanca' :"beginning of a beautiful friendship, Louis") as Piers had indicated in his 30d forecast, I can now say that with us it didn't happen the way he had foreseen, i.e. it was cooler & wetter more often, including the Gonzalo remnant event, the only warm days we had were 18 & 19th with 17˚ & 16˚ respectively. It wasn't bad on the whole but not what I would call a Louis; my ideal of an Indian Summer is the 3 weeks of unbroken sunshine we had in October 1985 after a very wet summer. The upside for me though is that the fact that even an ace like Piers can't predict it all shows that nature is still the boss!
On 26 Oct 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Mild and overcast today reached 15 deg. still 14 now @ 21.44 p.m 94% humidity, some really moderate blustery wind with strong gusts today around lunch time on showed 52 kph swl'y, but winds have eased now, was struggling trying to hold a gate open during one gust, fun for chasing leaves with the kids though :-) trees almost bare here now but is nearly winter, I'm so looking forward to the winter WA forecasts, some great comments to read on this site too..
On 26 Oct 2014, Rob wrote:
I too would like to echo Rohan's question. I assume massive flaring sunspot AR2192 is the reason large parts of western Scotland are seeing a month of rain in 48 hrs.
On 26 Oct 2014, Rohan wrote:
......meanwhile back at the batcave (re:Sol system),
We have had 1 X1, 1 X3 and 2 X2 solar flares in the past 4/5 days, not to mention a couple of hi level M flares!
I would like Piers expert opinion on what effect these events will have on our weather. Since, this aspect of our environment is not considered by mainstream 'forecasters'I can depend only on WA and Piers to give insight on this most active of solar weeks.
On 26 Oct 2014, DAVID ROWE wrote:
Hi Piers & All, I am steaming after just watching Ed Davey on Sky News taking questions on climate change. He must be the most conceited, haughty, egotistical, disdainful creature in this Government. The interviewer wasn't up to much, he hadn't done his research, I will have to go out for a pint to calm down, that man is impossible.
On 26 Oct 2014, Gerry N Downs 600ft 45d wrote:
Booker's Telegraph today looks at why we waste huge amounts of heat by not using combined heat and power. Denmark uses ii very efficiently so that the heat that here goes up cooling towers is used for neighbourhood heating. The UK was working towards it but the stupid Climate Change Act killed it off. Owen Patterson referred to it in his wonderful speech. An article has recently showed how it can work at an individual level by having a VW engine driving a generator with the engine coolant used for heating. And in answer to the question of how will our lame government survive during any power shortage, there is a gas turbine CHP plant in the ministry of defence that will provide them with heat and power. Everyone is equal remember....
On 26 Oct 2014, Gerry N Downs 600ft 45d wrote:
The answer to the power conundrum is diesel - that well loved green energy source. In recognition of the intermittent nature of dumb green energy, the government has been creating the Short Term Operating Reserve consisting of lots of diesel powered generators that can be turned on at the flick of a switch. Having worked on a steam turbine generator doing winding life assessment one cold December weekend - the only time they would shut it down - I left site at 9.15pm with the maintenance team working all night to bring the generator slowly up to temperature to start work at 7am the next morning. Any quicker and thermal shock damage will occur. The STOR also allows anyone with a generator to sign up to the scheme to help fill the gap. This adds up to around 10GW of power that is not included in reports on our capacity. It doesn't come cheap of course as like all generation in Davey's warped world, it is paid well above market rate.
On 26 Oct 2014, Steve (sub) wrote:
Even just simple non-maths-intensive questions like - "if Co2 performs this magical act why isn't there a right and a wrong way round to fit a double-glazing pane? (they contain the same Co2 as any other "chunk" of air). Or "why is there no greenhouse effect on Mars despite the 95% Co2 atmosphere? How can the night side go down to -160c? " Or "If there's only 4 molecules of Co2 in every ten thousand molecules of air that is incredibly tiny. isn't that like saying a damn great cruise ship will be upset and sink if a few ants sneak aboard while it is docked?"
Thinking costs now't and shouldn't hurt so why do so few people seem to do it?
On 26 Oct 2014, Steve (sub) wrote:
Good points Craig! What astounds me (all my long life) is the ability of those in charge (of anything) to happily sail ever closer to an "iceberg" of a problem while not doing anything about it. Typically they wait until it is almost (or actually) too late then make some wild correction or hasty patch-up that rarely does much good.
Human nature I suppose!
Worse still is the general population who lazily just snore along believing anything that a "nice" authority figure in a "nice suit" tells them. To check facts we used to have to visit libraries, write to or visit scientists, experts etc. Now we can all check facts in a few minutes research online - so easy but the level of general ignorance is - if anything - greater.
The Co2 scam is a good example of an insultingly bad lie - something so small as to equal "the emperor's new clothes" story and yet it is believed. So few people fired up their logic circuits even just for some basic questions - contd
On 26 Oct 2014, Nigella - subscriber wrote:
OBS from East Berks. Fair bit of sunshine on Saturday but stiff breeze kept the temps from feeling warm. Grey again today. Piers are you doing a bit of work on the side for Dr Who? Funny old plot last night around a threat to earth from a massive solar flare. Story was suitably bonkers but I thought it was good to see mention of solar activity at 8.30pm on a popular mainstream programme.
On 26 Oct 2014, Ron Greer wrote:
CRAIG M: right with you here. I was 4 weeks without running water in 2009/10 and 6 weeks in 2010/11 due to mains pipes freezing because of anticylconic weather and inadequate depth installation. Luckily I had installed a multi-fuel stove and opened up am old fireplace in the bedroom. All the more useful when a 50 hour power cut occurred. As a follower of Piers' projections for some years, I had begun my preparations.
I have been a long time campaigner against the prayer-wheels, frequently writing to the local and national press in Scotland. Plenty of subject matter in that Dec of 2010 of course, as for much of the calm cold weather total wind power production was under 1% daily and indeed at midday on the Solstice it was zero. No severe cold up to now and none apparently in immediate prospect BUT---now is the time to lay in those last minute fuel stocks etc.
On 26 Oct 2014, Craig M (@CraigM350, Berks, Sub) wrote:
Saskia - as Paddy said, very good to see you back. Hope all is well. /// Quiet day weather wise. Started reasonable with lovely clouds but mostly dull after, humid air and slightly cool. No wind. Yesterday rain but mostly the fine type when it did fall but enough to be unpleasant if out. Shortlived too. // solarham.net reports "Flaring Continues - Region 2192 continued to be productive on Saturday with an X1.0 solar flare peaking at 17:08 UTC. This is now the fourth X-Flare generated by the sprawing active region. Shockingly, all of the events thus far have failed to produce a noteworthy coronal mass ejection (CME). AR 2192 will remain a threat for additional flaring for the remainder of the weekend." Solar flux now 218, Sunspots 147, cornal holes incoming. I'd expect AR 2192-biggest sunspot in 10years-to give a parting cme shot as it rotates away to the limb.
On 26 Oct 2014, Craig M (@CraigM350, Berks, Sub) wrote:
...seriously tho' we have massive maintance problems with our supply (cracks, fires etc) meaning our wafer thin spare capacity has dusty old cobwebs-even the spiders have fled! Greens oppose any energy for anyone unless it is able to chop & incinerate birds in flight and they get to keep their iphones of course. In layman's terms our energy policy=the kitty for when the boiler breaks down is now an I.O.U-so Al Gore next door can build a 50ft glow-in-the-dark garden sundial for us all to keep warm & bathe in the light. Whilst LIA type weather is hardly friendly to modern power supplies (ice, heavy wet snow) let alone prayer wheels...we've got a bloody radium painted sundial in the garden! Who needs clocks* or lightbulbs anyway? What could possibly go wrong? // [*clocks go forward tonight as GMT returns] // 1) Drax=== http://dailym.ai/1nYv1Un === 2) Hinckley C === http://bit.ly/1wtvrTQ === 3) Radium painted dial clocks === http://bit.ly/1DdeXzC
On 26 Oct 2014, Craig M (@CraigM350, Berks, Sub) wrote:
...A repeat of the 70s 3day week is even part of Ed Davey's wonder strategy as factories will have to slow down when demand peaks (great for zero hour contracts no doubt)...oh but we can cut down American forests instead of using local coal ('coz U.S. wood uses less carbon - presumably using wind+solar to chop, process into pellets & ship across an ocean-by diesel-so it can burn in heaps in Yorkshire). Yah Davey boy! Save the planet from 'carbon pollution'. Think of the handful of jobs this will create (less the miners who are obviously evil-except back in the 80s when they were the 'in thing' to support). You know I should pay a green approved company oik to urinate on my compost heap instead of doing it myself. Heck I might even need to send a donation to one of Lord Deben's (a.k.a. John 'burger' Gummer) carbon interests afterwards to celebrate how 'sustainable' I am because it makes so much sense to reward morally defective sociopaths with a vested interest in fleecing people.
On 26 Oct 2014, Craig M (@CraigM350, Berks, Sub) wrote:
Ron/Sue - when a cold anti-cyclone (high pressure with little/no winds) hits Europe don't expect either the UK or Ireland to be able to have many places to go. We import ~2 gigawatts from France (mainly) quite often & in Europe have a merry-go-round of imports of borrowing from Peter to power Paul, but when cold hits that 'excess' is needed for increased demand not the neighbours. With GAZPROM Russia (Germany's main energy import buddy) a pariah - where will the extra energy come from...and how much extra, providing we can get it, will it cost? An awful lot of coal & nuclear stations are in the process of being mothballed (nuclear power is going off a cliff). Hinckley C-the supposed saviour-is the stupidly over subsidised nuclear folly (all 3 parties share big blame) with a *guaranteed* price for EDF of 200% market rate-based on the assumption prices can only go up (seen the price of oil plummet to ~$80barrel?) & will not be online for years...(2023)...
On 25 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Another day with a stiff SW breeze, gradually turning into W'ly, 6˚C at 7.30, 12˚ max, which is not bad for end of October, some very light drizzle in the morning but dry for the rest of the day with intermittent sunshine, 8˚ by 9pm. == Saskia: nice to have you back :-)
On 25 Oct 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Has been a little milder each day, today only a slight shower again but still overcast, 12 deg. Now @ 21.20 and partly cloudy..
On 25 Oct 2014, Ron Greer wrote:
Well, would you 'Adam and Eve it'?---GFS oscillating again and now forecasting a warm start to Guy Fawkes---all this in just a day. Now, why do we rely on Piers!?
On 25 Oct 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
Ron-could change, some possible issues with the satellite data feed=== http://bit.ly/1ww6BTu === ECMWF saying a non issue but then again they would. //
Sue (ROI) - thanks for that. BBC said (in bizarre logic) "[EU] will now be able to press large polluters like China and India to follow Europe's lead..." === http://bbc.in/10r4EvH ===
China has made it's crafty position clear-they agreed with everyone about climate & said they will do it 'asap' but with the provisio that the West drop it's hardline position on pharmaceutical patents...in the meantime they will power their economy by carbon thank you very much. Modi in India has a target of lifting his people out of poverty & putting them on the grid...powered by carbon. Loosely translated they are saying 'if you want to cut your hamstrings fine, we'll follow...later...promise'
On 25 Oct 2014, Saskia Steinhorst (sub. Netherlands) wrote:
The storm of the 21st flooded parts of our Northern coast, in particular the town of Delfzijl in Groningen province. Near us some flooding was also present, and the highest level of coastal watch - in particular surveillance of sea dikes - was activated. Unfortunately I can't say how strong the gusts were, as a 85-90 km/hr gust took out my AWS :-/ Currently cloudy with some sunshine, temps approx. 15C and some intermittent rain.Will try and have the AWS installed again as soon as I get a breather from other busy activities.
On 25 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Couldn't post this last night as 'Service Unavailable' came up all the time, so this relates to Friday 24th: 6˚C at 7.30 this morning, followed by a dry and blustery SW'ly day, max temp 11˚ with some spectacular shelf and lenticular clouds in the afternoon, 6˚ again by 9pm under a brilliantly starry sky - the stargazing season has started. MO were talking about a very windy weekend on the radio this morning.
On 24 Oct 2014, Ron Greer wrote:
SUE: never mind, Ireland could import electricity from the 2 dozen or so new coal-fired stations that Germany is building via that mythic-legendary supergrid the AGWERS keep promising will be along one day. We have several centuries worth of low-sulphur coal in Scotland, but apparently with us producing 0.05% of world mam-made CO2 we have to shut ours down to save the planet. Well, with all the windfarms to be built in Ireland and Scotland we can save greenhouse gases by discouraging our American diasporas from flying in to see the old countries. Outlander fans; eat your heart out.
CRAIG: GFS are vascillating again and though still going for a warm Halloween and cold Guy Fawkes night, but now backtracking on a longer wintry spell thereafter.
On 24 Oct 2014, Nigella wrote:
Obs from East Berks. Grey again. :-( Mildish at 15 degs but rain on & off. Overnight low of 11 degs. Looks like there may be some sunshine in SE tomorrow.
On 24 Oct 2014, Sue (ROI) wrote:
EU leaders meeting overnight in Brussels have agreed to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 40% by the year 2030, compared with 1990 levels.
Our Irish Premier Enda Kenny described the previous greenhouse gas emissions deal as "truly catastrophic" for Ireland.
He said that "completely unreachable targets" should not be set this time.
The major problem for Ireland is the size of its cattle herd, which emits huge amounts of methane, a significant greenhouse gas. Also the population following like a herd of sheep...is anyone going to stop this madness! It makes me so cross!
First we followed the Catholic Church blindly in this country now we're following another cult.
On 23 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
A better day for us today, cloudy but dry (I like the 'good laundry day, Nigella) and mild, 10˚ at 7.30, rising to 14˚ max, the sun came out only in the evening for a bit though later on there were stars visible, 11˚ at 9.30pm. It was pleasant working outside, a mellow autumn day. == Craig: great post on Gonzalo; from the wind chart it is clear that our top gusts were among the lowest in the country, so we got away with little damage and upheaval, this time anyway.
On 23 Oct 2014, Steve,Dorset,UK sub wrote:
When we arrived back in dear old blighty what did we see at the airport as we came in to land but all the new snow clearing gear being lined up, looks like a lot of new gear shining in the drizzle as we got off the plane, boys and their toys wonder whats on the radar there then.
On 23 Oct 2014, Ron Greer wrote:
Craig: note your earlier comments about GFS and actually it's not been too bad recently, though oscillating. It's now going back to suggesting a warm, though not likely a record warm Halloween but a quite chilly( especially in Scotland) Guy Fawkes night. Thereafter a brief mild spell, before what looks like something like real winter starting on th 8/9th.
On 23 Oct 2014, JohnE wrote:
This is quite fascinating.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/526191/Climate-change-is-a-lie-global-warming-not-real-claims-weather-channel-founder
On 23 Oct 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
The wind weasels (the ones who want subsidies funded by us to continue so they can continue milking us) have been trumpeting how wind overtook nuclear on Tues - it took an ex hurricane & the shutdown of reactors for this to happen not to mention the vast subsidies to fund mass bird slaughter and toxic mining (where are your campaigners Greenpeas? Damn it why are Mia Farrow and Emma Thompson not strapping themselves to prayer wheels to stop the slaughter?). There's a nice easy graphic showing how useless diesel backed up wind is when we don't have storms.
A pyrrhic victory* highlighting the 'robust' lunacy of the rent seeking 'green blob' ===
Wind Power - Spinning Words http://wp.me/p3GPQK-BS === * "(Of a victory) won at too great a cost to have been worthwhile for the victor."
On 23 Oct 2014, danny wrote:
There really is only 1 Piers Corbyn, and if Piers Corbyn made Lager,, it would be the best lager in the world,, no probability,s about it, as i post this comment i am having a cold pint of Piers Corbyn LOL. I would also like to add that Gill 1066 is right with
her comment about Gonzalo and if Piers says its going to be further south,, it will be further south,Brilliant,, and how right Piers was. As always Piers you are the MAINMAN.
Best wishes Piers from danny and his pot filling lurchers.
On 23 Oct 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
I did a post using all my screengrabs and pressure charts leading up to Gonzalo. I also link to the Talkshop where Tim Channon was saving the monthly outlooks. The MetO were late to the party in recognising the threat to London/SE which is sadly where two died (having looked at these the warnings were irrelevant IMO in those circumstances, for example where Teresita Sison died the road was cordoned off due to the tree not the pavement). Most interestingly once again the American GFS model had the track & intensity well from a week out (as it did Bertha) and the MetO warnings & charts came over to the GFS. It's quite possible the uncertainty was created by their own model. Piers again called the right turn correctly and I'll cover solar influences later on. Anyway I have animated gifs & images so you can make your own mind up === Predicting Gonzalo's Path http://wp.me/p3GPQK-C5
On 23 Oct 2014, Nigella - subscriber wrote:
Obs from East Berks. Mild again. Overnight low of 11 and currently 16 degrees. Grey and overcast but dry at the moment with a fair breeze - what my mother would call a good laundry day!
On 22 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
A mucky morning today with a good bit of steady rain in spite of a clear start, 4˚C overnight 'warming' up to 11˚ by early afternoon, by which it was also dry, wind mostl SSW'ly. It is an R4 period, so trouble can be expected, but I have to say I was hoping for better. Come the 26th we'll be able to reveal the forecast. 10˚ by 10pm and feeling mild.
On 22 Oct 2014, Rob Horler wrote:
The BBC reminds me of a dripping tap, constantly leaking little snippets of its AGW agenda out to the public. Todays drip was that wind power yielded more electric than nuclear yesterday. Why bother to mention it? Do they mention that nuclear wins on the other 364 days?
Also i see that the political genius that is John Prescott was at it again in his sunday column. Flat earthers,ect ect and a lot of name dropping after his latest visit to some climate summit where he assumed great importance according to him anyway. What 2 jags failed to mention was his motivation for the attack. Siemens are to build a giant windmill plant in Hull. Guess who is the Mp there.
On 22 Oct 2014, JohnE wrote:
There is some serious sticking out of necks from other forecasters regarding the up and coming winter. Now even the met office are suggesting, not predicting or anything like, that we are in for a bad one this year. Some are saying that there will be a mild period in December and then the brown (sorry white stuff) is going to hit the fan. I am hoping that the end of November is ok as I will be in Kielder forest for almost 3 days during the last week of that month. Not bothered about the cold but snow is an event stopper even with winter tyres, which will be fitted in advance.
On 22 Oct 2014, steven wright wrote:
l like to give an example of what i mean in my last comment last year in september weatheraction said that on this weekend that nw of scotland would have rain with a passing low and where i live in the se of england it would be dry however 6.00am sunday morning when i had to go home it was pouring down with rain i got soaked when i got in i checked weatheraction forecast and it said it would be dry i checked the local forecast and it said it be wet now weatheraction was right in the uk there would be a low unfortunaly in wrong place now i dont blame weatheraction for that maybe i should of checked local weather before i left but it wouldnt of mattered because i had to make that journey
On 22 Oct 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
13 deg. here @ lunchtime but feels colder, overcast with rain showers... I agree more choices should be available all round, I have just found out our children won't be participating in "Generation music" programme at their school as planned ( they have no music lessons apart from tin whistle!) because the majority of parents don't want it, it's cheaper than all the other activities past and present but because the "majority" don't want it the "minority" don't even get made aware or a choice in the matter until the choice is made for them!! how about asking the kids if they are interested I bet I know which way they would vote, if they had the 'choice' pah choice does not live up to its meaning!
On 22 Oct 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
Telegraph editorial hopefully showing signs the tanker is changing course following Patterson's speech, but it still endorses CO2 as the demon, despite no link to warming but hey it's a start. This bit was revealing...
"Unfortunately, it seems to go against the spirit of the times to put on a jumper to cope with the chill; it is far easier simply to turn up the thermostat.
Really? Maybe this is the case for Telegraph staff & acquaintances but besides possibly some of the younger generation (I know a few who), who doesn't put on extra layers or grab a blanket? My energy bill is ridiculously high. I don't have the luxury of turning up the thermostat & keep it off for as long as I possibly can. Most people I know do the same because of the high costs-partly brought on by price rigging, idiotic wars & taxes to subsidise bird choppers + solar power in a country renowned for the rain & gray. I know where I'd like to put the thermostat ;) === http://bit.ly/1wtvrTQ
On 22 Oct 2014, steven wright wrote:
i think blaming a weather forecaster for someones death is wrong especially when you dont know who that person was and what was going on the lady that sadly lost her life might of been like us who was very interested in the weather may of been a weatheraction subscriber but because she had to make a important journey and took a chance unfortunaltley it may of been just mis adventure wrong place wrong time maybe next time when there is a thunderstorm we all better duck for cover for the sake of the weatherman
On 22 Oct 2014, Jack Gillion wrote:
Looks like you might be struggling to get subscribers now. The MetO have told councils across the country to prepare for a very cold winter this year. Winter preparedness at its finest! Does this mean it will be wet and windy then Piers? As I remember them saying the same last year
On 22 Oct 2014, Nigella wrote:
Obs from East Berks - hurrah for sunshine! Blue skies with some high cirrus. Overnight low of 7 degs & currently a fairly cool 11 degs. I'm not an MO apologist, but they really weren't that far off the mark regarding the storm. They said it was going to be windy with very strong gusts at times, they said it was the remnants of hurricane Gonzalo and they said there would be lots of rain. Maybe they were a tad late with the yellow warning - but I think sometimes you have to pick your battles & this is not one I'd be fighting over.
On 22 Oct 2014, Rohan wrote:
Okay, manslaughter might be a bit harsh, however they should be charged with negligence at the very least!. I know about WA and so I check here when a weather event is reportedly on its way to find out the "real" extent of what may occur. I then warn my friends family and colleagues as to what the real scenario may become and they can either act on what I have relayed to them or not, at least they have the choice either way. I for one left for work a lot earlier than usual yesterday as I read what Piers kindly posted about the incoming remnants of Gonzalo and decided that, if it did come further south and affect the overground trains, then by leaving earlier, I might get to work before any disruption... an informed choice. If the MetO/Beeb had warned earlier that many places further south could be affected, then others could have made the informed choice to alter their movements accordingly.
On 21 Oct 2014, Gerry G Gerard N Downs 600ft 45d wrote:
If you introduce draconian penalties for getting forecasts wrong nobody will make them at all. Top bankers are leaving the industry rather than risk legal action that no other industry faces. No matter your view on the recent crisis - don't forget the role played by government in messing everything up - we need a good banking system to provide finance. With Met O being public funded it should suffer cuts for incompetence. A private company would lose customers. And when it comes to incompetence, what about MPs, civil servants and local government officers, police, health service officials who make dreadful decisions every day? Southern trains were warning of service disruption this morning while they looked for twigs on the line. However, it was just a bit windy. Some wind howl round the windows in London but no great dramas. Did notice the biting cold in the wind heading to the station and back home.
On 21 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Strong SW'ly and 11˚C overnight, sudden change in temp and wind direction around 7.30 to 8˚ and NW'ly as the Low transferred eastwards. Some very heavy rain in the morning, then clearing up to a mixture of blustery showers and sunshine. The wind here in the NE was not as strong as expected in the end, except through some of the showers in the afternoon when it was quite wild for short times. What was remarkable was the transition from the last three warm days to sudden cold, all happening within half an hour this morning, but that's autumn for you. 5˚ at 10 pm under a clear starry sky.
On 21 Oct 2014, Harris Keillar Subscriber - Edinburgh wrote:
Interesting that in Brian Cox's excellent series on Space and our evolution, they specifically mention rapid climate change due to solar / space factors as being a driver of evolution: http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zyj49j6#zctq7ty
On 21 Oct 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
London seems to have a fair few trees down including one on Southwark Street which is just around the corner from Borough High Street - WA HQ! 108mph reported on the Cairngorms by the BBC's Phil Avery, 88mph in Oban + 71mph recorded in Northumberland. Accuweather reporting 99mph winds in Isle of Wight - erm that was last year's storm. The BBC link they have goes to a non weather story. Oops. //
By the way I was referring to Rohan's earlier comment. I'm not for manslaughter charges as even if a forecast was nailed on in track and intensity local factors can have a significant impact. Now charging people for fiddling figures and wilfully misleading the public etc. That's a different matter. I would not get away with, nor you. Dame Slingo does and will be eventually further rewarded for her communications job (I see no science) & moved on quietly...as with most establishment 'managers' (banks etc) they have little to fear when they commit fraud, except the odd rebuke. Poor dears.
On 21 Oct 2014, Ron Greer wrote:
CRAIG350M,
Thanks for the outline.Snow on the tops here, but nothiing unusual for late October and nothing like the classic cold Octs of 1980. 1981 and 1992. Gut instinct tells me that it's going to be a mild stormy start to winter, but to watch out for a late cold spell.
On 21 Oct 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
( 62 kts recorded @ Malin Head 7.am this morning )
On 21 Oct 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Stronger winds early hours a bit of rattling on the roof going on then seemed to settle out for a bit this morning 8 deg.feeling colder with another increase in the blustery strong wind around lunch time tailing off again now though still blustery @ 3.30 p.m 11 deg. Some blue sky and sunshine @ times with fast moving cloud and heavier ones at times with hefty showers on and off all day. Some smaller branches down on roads and the wind has done its job here bringing a lot more leaves down, the silver birch is almost bare.
On 21 Oct 2014, Gill1066 East Sussex (sub) wrote:
Really annoyed with myself. Third pot - largish teracotta now gone over and smashed. More damage this time then last year with Pier's storm. Stupidly I believed Mobeeb when they said storm to hit mainly NI and north though they did warn of strong winds down south. Last year I moved everything out of wind's path following Pier's warning. This time I didn't move anything as the wind speed / gust on mo site were not too bad (they still aren't). Unfortunately looks like they are just plain wrong and below the true speed. memo to myself - if Piers says the storm's coming further south it WILL come further south!
On 21 Oct 2014, Nigella wrote:
Not sure I like the idea of forecasters being charged with manslaughter. I agree that the MO could do better but all forecasters will get it wrong and the thought that they could be up for manslaughter as a result is perturbing. No one can ever predict the future with 100% accuracy, there are too many variables. If the future was fully predictable, we would be an entirely different species in a different world. I felt well warned by my local weather station about strong winds today with a chance of tiles being blow off roofs, branches or trees coming down etc, but like everyone else in my place of work, I ventured out and took my chances. Rohan, are you suggesting we should all have stayed at home today because of the danger of being hit by a branch or tree? Last time Heathrow cancelled some flights because of inclement weather, there was uproar from some people!
On 21 Oct 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
I'd just add Gonzales is nothing special, certainly not for the North and certainly nothing like last year's Piers storm. It is not unusual for the time of year and these storms are what clears the leaves from trees. For the South only a few trees are already fully bare but as noted by many commenters here the seasons are different down from one of the Islands to the other, it's only really in the past week that Autumn has really taken hold locally* with piles of leaves everywhere. As lots of trees are still in leaf and due to the wet soil, it is favourable for trees to come down and to therefore affect transport & powerlines. * parts of central Russia went from Autumn to Winter in a few hours (Eastside has mentioned before how brief Autumn & Spring are there) === http://weatheraction.wordpress.com/2014/10/19/russia-the-transition-from-autumn-to-winter-come-to-pass-within-a-few-hours/
On 21 Oct 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
Just to add to what Rohan said the MetO yellow warning was extended to all of the UK (coastal counties of NI only) at 0947 this morning. My message last night was written just after midnight. The MetO warning system needs serious revision. Trying to pinpoint specific areas is hubris. A broad sweep is fine, which can then be narrowed down at T0 approaches. If you live in London/SE (i.e. commutersville) then it was only after you were at work & had dropped the kids off at school you were warned. BBC reporting trees down all over the SE/London. Considering the admitted uncertainty stated over the past few days - not good enough. Yes there is a case for too many warnings, but the current system is a 'consensus' compromise. I have said before I prefer the US warnings & even the broad accuweather ones. The message is simple - stop paying for PR services* to promote 'climate change' & focus on the weather in front of us. *PR queen Julia Slingo paid ~£230k last year inc. bonus
On 21 Oct 2014, Rohan wrote:
A woman has died after being hit by a falling tree near Hyde Park barracks in Knightsbridge... condolences to her family.
How long is it going to be before the MetO/BBC get charged with manslaughter for these inadequate forecasts they keep feeding us!
Very angry
On 21 Oct 2014, Gill1066 East Sussex (sub) wrote:
Two large pots with Italian Cypress gone over - was not expecting that. Wind gusts stronger than expected, though I am very exposed on a hill.
On 21 Oct 2014, Steve,Dorset,UK. Sub wrote:
My 10 days here in spain "mazarron" are up on thursday then it will be back to wind and rain it has not been very cold back home so i have been told by in laws, here at the villa the temp is 30c in the shade at 1 o'clock local time, midday english time, thought you would like to know, clear blue sky's here.
On 21 Oct 2014, Rohan wrote:
I notice that Metcheck have issued a new weatherwatch for the east and south-east.
When will the nay-sayers finally acknowledge that Piers has something they do not....20/20 vision! Be careful if you are in the east or south-east this afternoon and stay safe!
http://www7.metcheck.com/UK/CURRENT/warnings.asp
On 21 Oct 2014, Nigella wrote:
Obs from East Berks. Wind picked up shortly after 3am last night. Quite gusty at times but nothing too scary. Sheets of rain in the early hours as well but dried up at 8am. Having been very south westerly, the wind is now swinging around to a more north westerly direction. Ironically after all these low pressures sweeping through, the short term forecasts seem to be predicting a build of high pressure towards the end of the week.
On 21 Oct 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
Bit blustery earlier with a sharp shower in late afternoon. Clear skies an hour ago, now upper level waves evident with long streams of altocirrus coming in from NW; cool, still & v. quiet. // Sunspot number rising as is flux. Sunspot AR2192 growing & unstable as it becomes more geo effective. KP 4-5= unstable earth conditions. Positive N'ern coronal hole passed, stronger negative central disc incoming+ on 23/10=new moon, partial solar eclipse+Moon at Ascending Node//
Just seen the MOBeeb f'cast. Mentioned 80mph winds in exposed places in Scot. up from 70mph yesterday. Yellow alert area increased to include more s'ern areas & Heathrow proactively cancelling ~10% of flights+still uncertainty regarding the track (BBC*). Looks to hook right after crossing UK & passing down the N'th Sea into Denmark+Germany. Certainly looks to be a more defined feature. I have the past weeks MOBeeb f'casts recorded.Will be interesting to look back at the evolution === * http://bbc.in/1FpZK1V
On 20 Oct 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
Ron-I saw that story on increased snow in the northern hemisphere (Sept was 3rd highest on record dating from 1967, 1972 & 1977), reported here === http://bit.ly/1rUcweB === you can see previous years here === http://1.usa.gov/1wYqgJF
=== I'm looking now at where cold built in prev years. I think of it as another ingredient for a cold winter for our corner of Northwest Europe; QBO (trade winds), Sea temperatures around us, the Arctic and Atlantic Oscillations (which are more a proxy), ENSO, warmth (or not) of the gulfstream, jetstream pattern, Pacific+Atlantic temps favouring (or not) rapid cyclogenis, ozone concentrations (affected by UV 30-50km up), lunar (i.e. Bob Weber's comms re. nodes & jet being dragged up & down) & of course the control knob is the sun which was rampant last winter making a very fast jetstream but in a 'stuck' meridional/wavy pattern. It was quiet in 2010, Feb 2012, early 2013 but not 2014. Storminess seems to follow activity.
On 20 Oct 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Showers on and off since this afternoon, 14 deg. 88% humidity @ 23.17p.m wind starting to pick up a bit the last hour wsw 42 kph.
On 20 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
8˚C at 7.30, drizzle until about 10, then a bright and breezy day from the SW, high clouds and quite a bit of sunshine, max temp 14˚, down to 9˚ by 10pm. MO has now issued a yellow wind warning for the whole of NE Scotland as opposed to just the coastal strip in yesterday's warning. The predict top gusts of 55mph tomorrow afternoon. For the time being, things are still calm, wind due to pick up by 1am, first from SW then turning into NW as the Low transfers into the North Sea. We'll see how it all works out, being R4 as of tomorrow it might be rather more ferocious.
On 20 Oct 2014, Richard Traut yearly sub Redcar wrote:
Piers ,maybe an idea that a subscribers forum meets certain criteria ,i.e. they have posted before so are known plus any new subscriber,has to post in the public forum for their first month ,hopefully this will deter one month wonder trolls !!
Weather here in Redcar a mixed bag? strangely a bit like April,sun and showers temperatures have ranged from 11-18c during the day to 6-14c overnight ,let us see how this ex hurricane passes in the next 36 hours ,thanks,Richard.
On 20 Oct 2014, Nigella wrote:
Obs from East Berks. Overnight low of 12 degs & top temp of 19 degs yesterday and it was dry with sunshine & fast moving cloud. Very windy though, which made it feel cooler. Currently 15 degs here today, dry with sunshine & clouds. Looks like we'll be getting another low ploughing across tonight & short term forecasts seem to be going for another very unsettled week. High pressure continues to elude!
On 20 Oct 2014, Steve Devine (sub) Waltham Abbey wrote:
7% of the UK's energy supplies disrupted due to Didcot fire; http://news.sky.com/story/1356667/didcot-fire-puts-the-squeeze-on-energy-supplies
If we're due a cold winter then brownouts and blackouts could loom large, all the while the cartel of the Big Six energy providers laugh in our faces as wholesale gas prices fall and yet they reap in huge profits. This could be The Winter of Discontent indeed...
On 20 Oct 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Can't recall the weather yesterday as in bed with flu, today seems like the old calm before the storm saying though a light breeze about now this aft. Around 13 deg. overcast and dragging myself out to get some logs together to cover some bases incase we get it worse than met predict here in the Midlands, yellow status up for us here re wind and rain Orange further NW..
On 20 Oct 2014, Gill1066 East Sussex (sub) wrote:
I gave a talk last week on farming and was asked the inevitable climate change question. I replied saying for me the jury was still out, as if climate change is indeed responsible for what has happened over the last few years - what and who on earth (ha-ha) was responsible for the planet's change over the preceding billions of years this planet was in existence, and did someone forget to warn the dinosaurs about all the problems those hot exploding volcanoes were creating.
On 20 Oct 2014, Matt wrote:
I can not believe the stupidity among so called scientists today. Looking at the Earths climate over millions of years 85% of the time its freezing cold the other 15% the Earth is taking a little holiday from the coldvqnd this is where we are now. They talk about 35 years of satellite data and nothing else. It is and always has been the sun to blame for Earths climatic shifts. Life has always prospered in warm climate. Its the cold that killed in the type past with failed harvests. I think we are heading for a dalton minimum. If the Russians are correct we are in for a maunder minimum. The Russians seem to be on the ball with solar activity. Piers i would like your thoughts on this please. If indeed itsva Maunder we are in big trouble are we not???
On 20 Oct 2014, Ron Greer wrote:
STEPHEN; well made points there. Those of us in our 60s will remember the harsh winter of 1963, but few of that generation will remember that during the relatively benign winter of 1966, Europe had another very sharp one. Just a few miles of sea can make a big difference and even last year's so-called mild winter the Scottish Highlands had record snowfalls.
On 19 Oct 2014, @Piers_Corbyn wrote:
Thanks all - SUE H NI. Yes we should have had DEC 2010 in that archive but there was a direct link before I think. Anyhow it is now there along with another favourite - July 2012. However you must realise if you are a subscriber that ALL THE FORECASTS for about the last 6 years (depending on the service) are available instantly to the subscribers for any service because once loaded they are not unloaded (major site crashes excepted I suppose) so DEC 2010, eg, is available anyway to all 30d BI subscribers. -- PADDY/ ALL interesting point re the impending storm, a prob of course is various media headline talk-up anything so we have to compare closely what MetO-BBC actually say or said with what happens. The centre track is important too - see the map issued in HomePage. -- SUBSCRIBERS FORUM We may well give it a go subject to organisation but all should be aware it does not end trolls, some trolls buy forecasts. Further COMMS on the idea welcome before we proceed. Thanks Piers
On 19 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
A lovely, if somewhat blustery day, 12˚C at 7.30 when the SW'ly wind suddenly got up and kept the temperature lower than yesterday, though still a max of 16˚. A mixture of clouds and sun, very clear evening with stars, 10˚ by 10pm. MO is giving a yellow wind warning for Tuesday (R4) already, had somebody on the phone from Heathrow telling me that they were being warned of a big storm on Tuesday also.
On 19 Oct 2014, Sue H (N.Ireland) wrote:
Thanks Stephen and Matt! I better buy my winter sub for starters. I will also check out those vids of Piers online. I have tried to tell hubby to get ready for winter etc, but he's not as worried as I am. he does say that its not normally the snow that brings our power lines down, but the wind. Which is true. We do have a back-up generator. but we need to ensure we have adequate supplies of petrol for it. And, everything is rather unpredictable if a volcanic eruption is thrown into the mix. however one really bad blinder of a winter like America had last year and we could all be singing a different tune.
On 19 Oct 2014, Rob wrote:
Did anyone listen to the reaction to Owen Paterson's remarks on the Jeremy Vine show on Thurs. 16th? One sensible caller and the rest were all the usual hysteria along with an ''expert'' from Reading University. If you fancy a laugh go to the iplayer and you will find it starts at 1hr 25 min into the show.Great comment from Mr Vine himself as he bemoans how he paid 9K for some solar panels and how he noticed on a sunny day in the summer he got 1.60 worth of electricity out.
On 19 Oct 2014, Maria 45day sub somerset wrote:
Thank you for october update. I am in the SW and I have to say that I am very happy with the oct forecast. I don`t expect it to be bang on the button all the time but this warm weather is very pleasing and I never did put summer clothes away because of the forecast. I am loving the intermittent wet, no watering and the winter veg are huge
On 19 Oct 2014, Matt wrote:
Sue the year2009/2010 had very low solar activity this made. The jetstream buckle and we had big blocking. The Arctic Oscolation tanked record. Low. I would say by 2017 onwards we will see more Winters like December 2010. And cool wet summers. Get ready. For hell!!!
On 19 Oct 2014, stephen parker ( sub ) wrote:
Re Sue. All the pointers such as the NAO and low solar activity would lean toward a cold northern hemisphere winter, which does not mean necessarily for us. Last winter the USA and china and central Europe had a monster of a winter, where as we missed the worse.Other subscription only forecasters have put it in the public domain that they expect a severe winter so we shall see.
If we start to get blocking up near Greenland then watch out!
I do remember early videos from piers circa 2009 when he first came to my attention, saying that the real cooling starts in 2015, these are still available on youtube.
It dosnt hurt to prep a bit, lag outside pipes ,get in some rock salt ect, we will need it in the next few years.
Remember also there is on-going activity at Bardabunga in Iceland, and if we get a caldera eruption or a new fissure under the ice, this could have a profound effect on our weather,so it makes for an interesting season!
On 19 Oct 2014, Ron Greer wrote:
SUE(Ireland), Aye, I also picked up on that story on Siberian snow cover in Oct as being an index of severe cold in N.E USA. Is it true or bunkum and what does it mean for us this side of the Atlantic?
Thoughts, Piers, Craig?
On 19 Oct 2014, Rob wrote:
UKMO seem to have picked up on the threat from Gonzales for Tuesday. Forecast on the BBC last night (18th) warned of stormy conditions with hill snow. AS usual though the devil is in the detail so they will still likely get the exact severity wrong due to solar factors at play which I guess are being driven by the big x flare that has just gone pop on the sun.
On 19 Oct 2014, Sue H (N.Ireland) wrote:
warmish yesterday, about 15 or 16 deg, sunny and bright but the blustery wind took the edge off the temps somewhat and it felt colder. overnight blustery. With all this talk off record levels of snow in the siberia indicating possible winter/snow outcomes, I thought I would check in Piers' archives to see what his forcast was like in 2010. I didn't find it, but I did see the one for Dec 2009, and he was pretty much spot on for us as I remember. 17-18th dec very cold nights but dry. Well we were so cold here the last few days of the winter term that the downpipe outside the house froze and the shower pipe burst inside house all through kitchen ceiling! outside the drive was so frozen that a work van had to give up, he kept sliding out. 2010 was probably the first year I heard of Piers, and I generally only buy subs in winter months to check snow! Does anyone else know was there a correlation in 2010 with Siberian snow cover? Or was the snow/cold that year set up due to other factors?
On 18 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Rain overnight, very heavy for a while around 7am, but very mild with a very strong SSW wind, 12˚C at 7.30. Bright sunshine by 9am and for the rest of the day, max temp 17˚, probably a degree or two higher in full sun - so we finally have alignment with Piers' forecast! Which has not been the case until today, it may have been sunny in more western and southern parts of Scotland but decidedly not here. 12˚ by 9pm. == A members' forum has been mooted before and I agree it would be a good idea - but who will administer it? And will all we regular posters still contribute as much to this blog? This is after all the public face of Weatheraction and non-subscribers and newcomers who read this can get a bit of an idea of what WA is all about and how the mainstream is selling us snake oil, not only in weather forecasting but in just about everything else in life.
On 18 Oct 2014, WENDY wrote:
ref.Stephen Parker
Sub High Peak Derbyshire.
I have been thinking about a members only board too.It would make sense.Would it be possible?
Light fading fast here, started to rain,although quite warm still and windy.Picked some raspberries today from the garden,never enjoyed them so late here before ,we are quite exposed to the elements!
On 18 Oct 2014, Nigella wrote:
Obs from East Berks. Mild and cloudy with occasional showers. Temps tempered by strong breeze and lack of sunshine. Still mild for time of year though. I second the request for a subscribers forum. I would welcome the chance to ask questions about the forecasts because there are often aspects I don't understand but I can't ask about for fear of divulging details to non-subscribers.
On 18 Oct 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Well it was very blustery strong winds and rain overnight, but here where we are in the Midlands It was not like the other week no tiles banging on the roof and the rain did let up at times, has been a mild blustery windy sunny day with some blue sky and now clouds this aft.
On 18 Oct 2014, stephen parker ( sub ) wrote:
Cant we have a members only comment section?, this would remove the troll element and allow us to discuss our forecasts,good and bad in a serious and constructive way.We are ,after all ,paying for these and it would remove all the pussy footing around on the forum.
The public comment section could continue to be moderated.
On 18 Oct 2014, @Piers_Corbyn wrote:
WEATHER COMMS. Thanks all for useful information and wise questions and obs- eg James Blakely and others. As many now can see our LR WeatheAction pressure maps at present and for the last week have been not bad and indeed increasingly confirmed by real weather patterns EXCEPT while Scotland and English N borders have been doing quite well our predicted lower pressure in Biscay etc has been more active making rain in Much of England and Wales; AND the whole pattern has been shifted eastwards making further extra rain for Brit and Ire. PART of the extra rain could be inadequate interpretation of our own maps but probably the bigger issue is the shift east and extra activity which are probably aspects of the MIA - re amazingly well formed and LARGE 'efficient' weather systems - which we need to better understand; and related long tracked Atlantic ex Tropical Storms the prediction of which we will improve on as our USA activity expands which it must despite our zero public funds.
On 18 Oct 2014, @piers_Corbyn wrote:
THANKS ALL -- CRAIG Thank you for your comm on steadfast defence of the integrity of this site against trolls, and thanks also to STEVE and Matthew for monitoring. Provision of emails in COMMS is vital for checks and trolls who offer false emails - a quite common trick of trolls - will not get them far. Genuine would-be commenters btw should always get a hearing subject to certain basic rules as via above PDF link above and on occasions can get direct responses where there are security issues or requests for non - Public response. Re recent increases of trolling note the Warmist troll industry of self - serving green tax thieves science deniers and associates who get a buzz from telling lies is now moving to overdrive as their empire crumbles, Owen Paterson being just the beginning of their end. From the figures he gives it's easy to see there are HUGE AMOUNTS OF mis directed tax money at stake so it's no surprise that they get more active after exposes like his of their game.
On 17 Oct 2014, Ron Greer wrote:
Looks from GFS predictions that we might get one of the warmest Halloweens on record. after a very brief cool snap around the 26th/27th.
On 17 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Mild & wet this morning, 11˚C at 7.30, rising to 12˚ and staying there until 9pm when I last looked. We also had fairly thick fog which lasted all day. Heavy rain is on the way as can be seen on the radar; so we have one half of Louis the Alignment, tomorrow the other half should come according to MO which predicts temps of 15˚ here. In any case, the Atlantic Low is bringing us the warmth as per 30d forecast & Euro Pressure Maps, more rain than I would have expected though.
On 17 Oct 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Started overcast and milder temp around 13 deg. Rained on and off all afternoon and some really hefty showers with stronger winds now this evening, met.ie have yellow wind and rain warning up for this eve. into tomorrow..
On 17 Oct 2014, James blakely wrote:
Intense storms yesterday in Northern Ireland and Southwest England. Can other factors be at play if this is quiet period?
On 17 Oct 2014, Nigella wrote:
Obs from East Berks. Mild, wet & grey. Overnight low of 14 and high yesterday of just over 14 too. Set to be warmer today & is currently nearly 15 degs. Heavy rain overnight & still a lot of cloud cover. Does WA know why the humungous atlantic low has been such a strong and lasting influence?
On 16 Oct 2014, Richard Brown wrote:
My youngest children are now at senior school and I await with trepidation the day they come home and say that they are learning about climate change....they are nearly 12 yrs old and know enough about the subject to argue sensibly and knowledgeably with their teachers!!! Looking forward to parents evening after those lessons!! I am hoping for snow this winter and lots of it! Too many germs around that need killing off. Well done to Owen Patterson for coming out and speaking common sense. Now, if the other MPs would do the same.....
On 16 Oct 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
6˚C overnight but a somewhat milder 10˚ by 7.30, rain set in just after 8 with some really heavy showers. It only dried up by afternoon, 11˚ max, 10˚ by 10pm and the sky was overcast all day. == Nigella, you call it the Alignment, I call it Louis, we can reveal towards the end of the month what its real name is. == If anyone has any doubt about the corrupt nature of most of the upper echelons of the green movement, watch this http://www.rinf.tv/video/wwf-silence-pandas Exposure of the WWF (further info here http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/wwf_the_silence_of_the_pandas/). If you're still 'Green' in a political sense this documentary will shock that right out of you, a must see even for the converted.
On 16 Oct 2014, Steve (sub) wrote:
Many of us have of course tried arguing with the brainwashed ones about Co2 (typically their eyes glaze over if you point out the incredibly small percentage of it in air and how it is needed by plants etc). But the best points I have seen recently are: Double glazing contains air (like all air with traces of Co2 of course) so why isn't there a "right" and "wrong" way of fitting it so heat can come in from outside but never escape back? Also: How can the claimed magic work on Earth at 0.038% of the atmosphere, when on Mars (at 95% ) it doesn't stop heat escaping on the "night" side -140degC versus +20C in the sunshine (NASA figures). How dim do you have to be to be taken in by it all?
On 16 Oct 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
NOTE ON COMMENTS - Please, please include your email address otherwise your comment won't be released. There are a few recent comments not released for this reason. We use this to verify it *is* you and not a troll pretending to be you. Think about this anyone can write as @CraigM350 saying 'global warming is real we're all going to die' but without a valid email address the mods will know it's not me.
Also if there is an issue with the comment (revealing forecast details, inappropriate wording etc), you will receive a reply by email as to why your comment has not been released. We have also had an uptick in trolling but that seems to have affected many sites lately. Trolls will be deleted, ignored & left starving.
On 16 Oct 2014, BLACK PEARL wrote:
On 16 Oct 2014, Gerry N Downs 600ft 45d wrote:
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Ah its a coincidence that you mention this.
I've just been reminding Ed Davey of the fact, minutes ago along with the Owen Patterson headlines splashed all over the papers.
We've got plenty of coal here in the NEast for those power stations.
http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/drilling-date-set-north-seas-6896191
Did you listen to the Radio4 interview of Owen Patterson. The reporter just wouldn't let him speak.
Think she nearly vapour locked at his suggestion the Climate Change Act should be abandoned.
Of coarse working for the Green Blob BBC what other approach could she take
On 16 Oct 2014, Rob wrote:
Owen Paterson was on the Jeremy Vine Show today. Listen on iplayer about 90 min in.
On 16 Oct 2014, Gerry N Downs 600ft 45d wrote:
Owen Patterson was targeting the energy lunacy of the climate change act (opposed by just 3 Tories) and wisely leaving the climate change debate for another time. The act has committed us to ridiculous targets that can't be met and will increase electricity so much that most of our manufacturing will close. This could be the demand management side of things where with no industry we need less energy generation. That there are no jobs probably passed them by but since the act was written by a greenie (since made a baroness for some bizarre reason) and that is no doubt the outcome she wanted. Now that UKIP are on the up and scaring not just the Tories but Labour too after the Heywood result, a good policy on energy and returning to coal for generation would be a winner. I think that gas should be reserved for domestic, heating and industrial processes while coal makes power. The act will have us without domestic gas at all.
On 16 Oct 2014, Nigella wrote:
Obs from East Berks. Yay, sunshine this morning. Lots of surface water and clouds scudding by and a high chance of showers, but a distinct improvement on the last few days. Overnight low of 12 degs and currently 14 degs, so milder again. Short term forecast suggesting warm & wet over the weekend. Shall continue to keep my fingers crossed for Alignment!
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