On 23 Aug 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Bright morning, though with copious amounts of flat-bottomed and towering cumulus clouds rolling in from the NW on the stiff breeze, hot in the sunny bits, cold under the clouds, occ light showers. 7˚C overnight, rising to a max of 16˚, more showers late afternoon but a clear starry evening, the stargazing season has now started again at last. 7˚ by 11pm when we came home from a musical evening - now that's a definite autumn feeling! == BOB: interesting re acorns, we'll compare notes in the spring :-)
On 23 Aug 2014, Andy B 45D Farmer sub SE Wales wrote:
Warm finish to the day here while I mowed the lawns, grass has grown well this year, Hi Saskia
I hope you don't mind that I sent you that picture of that threatening cloud on twitter, it was very unusual to see that super cell formation over the Netherlands (I am @beefyfarmer )
On 23 Aug 2014, Nigella wrote:
Another chilly morning in East Berks. Had to wear a coat first thing but it warmed up to 19 degs although a cool breeze kept it from feeling that warm. Have been greatly amused by the 'pause' in global warming! I'm here because I don't believe in global warming, as well as my long-term weather fascination. It annoys me how pervasive the warmist propaganda has become. My mother who is over 80 talks about how the climate has changed in her lifetime because that is what she is constantly told by the media. When asked about the coldest winters she can recall, interestingly 2 of them are in the last 5 years.
On 23 Aug 2014, Richard Traut yearly sub Redcar wrote:
Hi Bob i see that back to back cold winters like the one you had last are rare to say the least ,only once in 50 years according to Ben Gelber, Meteorologist !!,maybe it could be the uk,s time to have a severe winter this time,we will wait and see ,meanwhile here in Redcar the last week has been coolish temperatures by day up to a max of 16.c and by night down to as low as 7.c sunshine and showers ,it feels like April!! :)
On 23 Aug 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
8 deg. This morning around 7a.m but nice bright start to the day warmed up to 16 deg. some lovely sunshine around all day with mostly blue sky, just starting to roll in some big clouds now but the nicest day this week with only a very light breeze atm. stacking logs getting in the mood for winter :)
On 23 Aug 2014, Alister wrote:
Weasel words and careful expressions are in evidence in the John Hammond article. E.G. 'Established scientists' is NOT the same as the 'scientific establishment', even though you could be fooled into thinking it is, if you're not looking for weasel words. Always beware of opinion masquerading as fact.
On 23 Aug 2014, Bob Weber, N Mich USA subscriber wrote:
Paddy, our oaks have dropped copious numbers of acorns twice this summer, more so than during each of the last several summers. Taken with the Farmer's Almanac's hard winter 2014/15 forecast, I'd say it looks like nature is trying to tell us something. Piers' Aug USA forecast has so far been very good. The last double R5 was something else- report on USA Aug. tomorrow. Russ, trade me books- I've got a signed copy of Robert Felix's "Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps" - fascinating. On WUWT's "Revising the Sunspot Count" (8/19), I concluded from my study of Leif Svalgaard's new Group Sunspot Number (GSN) data that "The 68 years from 1936 to 2003 defined the Modern Maximum, when the average annual sunspot number (GSN) was 73.5, 22.7 higher, or 44.7% higher, than the prior 187-year average of 50.8, and it was 30.8% higher than the 266-year GSN annual average of 56.2. “Grand” or not, it was an extended period of significantly higher solar activity." I got yer solar warming Leif!
On 22 Aug 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Dry morning today, though cold at 8˚C at 7.30, eventually rising to 16˚ in the sun. Rain started promptly once we went in for lunch, we had some beefy showers off and on all afternoon, stilll with an occasionally stiff N'ly wind, temp inexorably approaching 8˚ by 9.30pm.. == Attempting to predict a hard winter by the amount of seeds & fruit on trees has been discussed recently and it was generally concluded that these were not necessarily a reliable indicator. There is another interesting aspect to plant growth this year though: the earliness of everything, rowan berries, not so many but red/ripening much earlier, willow herb flowering earlier & seeding already etc. This began before the present cold arrived - could this be in anticipation of a hard or early winter or simply a result of the earlier warmth & light which speeded everything up? Years of observation might yield answers…
On 22 Aug 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
The wind picked up earlier today but after a brief shower the sky cleared and it turned out a nice afternoon and early evening, temps just reached 16 deg. felt warm for a while, Showing 12 now at 21.25pm but feels colder than 12. Def. felt contrasts in temps today, Steve D I have that 2010 feeling too but that could be my wishful thinking!-)
On 22 Aug 2014, Maria 45day sub somerset wrote:
I am also so grateful that we did not get the scorching weather. I honestly don`t mind if we don`t get 100% accuracy, knowing the R4-5 periods is enough tbh and I have learnt to apply these periods to met o forecasts if I need short term accuracy.
On 22 Aug 2014, Craig M (@craigm350, sub, Berks) wrote:
Matthew - fatalistic mistake by the warmists. If the oceans (or the sun which has also been used as an 'excuse' for model failure) then conversely the oceans ( warm pdo [ pacific ] and warm amo [ Atlantic ] ) are responsible for the warm period 1976-98. Can't have it just one way - it shows natural cycles/fluctuations are responsible for climate not CO2., no matter how much desperate straw clutching they invoke. It also invalidates the models. As Anthony Watts wrote "When will the climate science community admit they’d tuned their models to a naturally occurring upswing in the warming of global surfaces from the mid-1970s to the turn of the Century, and as a result their projections of future global warming are way too high?" Hmm not 'too high' but totally wrong. // Steve D - parallels with 2010 are uncanny. Glad I'm not the only one. / Nigella - Piers said to me a week ago 23rd will be the 'change'. Looks like it will be warmer (average)but Atlantic influenced (W'ly) better in Sth
On 22 Aug 2014, steve(sub) wrote:
Unlike Ingmar, I am very happy it didn't turn out to be scorchio (even the not quite so scorchio that we in central scotland were to be getting). I can't stand heat and anything up to 20c is fine by me, but over that I hate it.
On 22 Aug 2014, Matthew wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/28901854
Hasn't the ocean been expanding since the last ice age anyway? How is this evidence of anything man made?
60 year salinity cycle? He means solar cycle.
Looking back 650,000 years and beyond at the ice core data the temperature rises and then the co2 rises, not the other way round even with higher co2 than now if I am not mistaken.
So how can the scientific establishment be so certain like John Hammond says?
On 22 Aug 2014, Ingmar wrote:
Hi, I am so sorry that you failed about the predicted heatwave this August. Still any chances of having something above 25C in the end of the month and beginning of september? I am organizing a music festival in Normandy, France around 29th/30th of August, quite worried about the actual settled weather pattern...I feel sheepish because two weeks ago I was telling everyone of my friends about possible scorching temp' coming in western Europe LOL. Keep up with the good work of understanding what worked wrong with your forecasts.
On 22 Aug 2014, richard [subs east mids] wrote:
i like the removal of the red and yellow highlighting as it helps a lot in understanding what is on the page as sometimes it can be too busy :)
On 22 Aug 2014, Matt (subscriber) wrote:
So there IS a global warming pause? When I discuss this on web forums I get told that there isn't a pause because the heat has gone into the oceans, it's due to chinese polution blocking the sun and volcanoes. My interpretation is that scientists know there is a pause, are baffled by it, but for the sake of their careers have to come up with explanations to keep their jobs.
On 22 Aug 2014, Steve Devine (Sub) Waltham Abbey wrote:
Good morning all. Just a quick observation that the temperatures this year are closely following those of 2010, and we all know how that year ended eh Piers? If we look at May 2010 - August 2010 for example we get May average 16c by day, 21.6c in June, 23.9c in July then 20.5c in August. This year we've had 17c average by day in May, 20.7c in June, 23.7c in July and 20.4c for August so far which should creep up slightly by month end as High Pressure drifts close to the UK from the South next week. I've got a feeling the chess pieces are falling into place nicely after a disappointingly mild and torrential winter last year. :-)
On 22 Aug 2014, Lorraine Lister (sub) NZ wrote:
The new EU rules on vacuum cleaner wattage affect those of us in the southern hemisphere too if we use makes from Europe. We have a Miele 1600 watt one which at least we'll be able to replace with the same wattage when the time comes but how ludicrous that anything over that will be banned from manufacture or sale. Bad news for anyone with a large house. Lets hope we never bring in regulations like that in NZ!
On 22 Aug 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Toughed it out and didnt light the boiler to save the logs, extra blankets seemed sufficient, No proper heating on since March & I would like to get into sept/oct before we heat the house most days again, Showing 7 deg. here this morning @ 7.00 a.m but the humidity maybe rising or I've got used to it as not feeling as cold, possibly because the breeze is lighter too.
On 21 Aug 2014, Russ subs NE Derbyshire wrote:
What`s this? A 30 year cycle has been found (day-dreamed about), to account for the pause in global warming (didn`t think they still used that phrase). Can`t really call it a `pause in climate change` now can they? So roughly half a Hale cycle. So it is expected to warm up by then anyway, unless of course the big thunkers (sic) bash their heads together and work out that the timing is perfect for a little cooling.... As far as a Little Ice Age is concerned Piers, I hope you are right, or my kids are going to be in for a rough ride! ... On a different but just as bizarre angle as global warming, the History Channel has a programme about the ancients and they talk at length about aliens visiting earth. Yet everything they propose can be easily refuted with simple logic, and described with migration and starvation, without the need for spaceships or extra terrestrials. Watch it and you`ll see what I mean....
On 21 Aug 2014, Shaun (Wales) wrote:
See I'm not the only one seeing Autumn, I have been watching the Autumn like changes for at least 3 weeks now. I'm a mountain runner and run 5 days a week plus walk my energetic boxer dogs for hours and the change has stood out for some time. I saw Hazel nuts and concors really early and my cycling and running buddies have noticed too as we're out and about.
I first I assumed the nuts would be empty inside the shell, but as I noticed the squirrels going nuts over them in my garden last week I gathered there must be some nut growing inside, and was pleasantly surprised to find some big ens.
Beside the masses of nuts and berries that have been around the changes to yellows, regs, and browns have also been here for week,s granted it was minor here and there but in the last week Ive noticed massive increases of autumn colours. Plus the obvious cool air we have had and just this deja vu feeling which I think is just my subconscious recognising the new season arriving. Seems early
On 21 Aug 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
STEVE Dorset: I'm heartened to know that we are not the only ones exposed to early frosts! We haven't had one yet in our location but 8˚C overnight is cold enough for me for late August, and I wouldn't be surprised if there had been some frosty bits in the Highlands in the last 10 days. It rained lightly pretty much all night and much of the morning, the sun only came out around 1pm by which time temps had got to today's max of 16˚. Showers off and on all afternoon, 9˚ by 10pm but didn't feel quite so chilly. == Interesting to read all the reports from various parts of the country & Ireland, clearly we are not the only ones feeling the cold.
On 21 Aug 2014, occasionally David wrote:
We've been hearing the mantra that the warming has gone on, year on year, by the BBC et al, and then today the BBC published this article. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-28870988 I quote "The hiatus in the rise in global temperatures could last for another 10 years, according to new research. Scientists have struggled to explain the so-called pause that began in 1999, despite ever increasing levels of CO2 in the atmosphere."
Their theory said A+B=C. 15 years of reality has shown that A+B does not equal C. At what point does the theory become so obviously wrong that no one can maintain it any longer?
On 21 Aug 2014, Andy B wrote:
Rob I sold my hoover the other day it was only gathering dust! lol
On 21 Aug 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Drizzle stopped around 11 a.m a good amount of blue sky and sunshine in the end reached 15deg. Some heavy cloud and one big downpour this afternoon thought it was going to crack a storm but nope, still some heavy cloud around but on the whole a nice sunny but bit chilly evening...
On 21 Aug 2014, Rob wrote:
More madness in the name of saving us from climate catastrophe. You now have 10 days left in which to buy a vacumn cleaner more powerful than 1600 watts. After this time it will be illegal. So in the future we can not only look forward to living in cold dimly lit houses they can be dusty as well.
On 21 Aug 2014, Wendy wrote:
sub high peak.derbyshire
Cold and windy,saw many leaves on the ground today.
Definite autumn feel to the weather, short heavy showers. Heating on! I am dreading the winter months if it is like this now.
On 21 Aug 2014, Carrie wrote:
Really seeming like Autumn here in East Yorks. Last few mornings very cold and not gaining much during the day. Little sun, plenty of rain. Leaves falling from trees already, I'd say a good 4 weeks earlier than recent years as reminds me of the 80's when I walked our children to school in early September, same feel to it.
On 21 Aug 2014, Nigella wrote:
Still 'brrrrr' here in East Berks. Overnight low of 7 degs. We had a high earlier of 18 degs when the sun was out but it has dropped back down to 16 degs now under heavy grey clouds. I'm still unclear as to what has happened and whether we will see a return to WA forecast here in the UK. Any thoughts?
On 21 Aug 2014, Gill1066 East Sussex (sub) wrote:
6.9 c first thing at milking time this morning I was told. Stunning blue sky 10am. Also was told in the Netherlands it is the coldest August for many years. I am sure Saskia will confirm or correct.
On 21 Aug 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Some gusty wind for a short time in the afternoon of the 19th, temps went down to 8 in the night, yesterday 20th was a cool but dry day temps 10/11 @ 8 a.m only climbed to 15 deg. back down to 11 by 10pm, wet start this morning with persistent drizzly rain, 10deg again @ 8.am and overcast...looking at lighting boiler fire for heating this evening for a quick burn just to take the edge off as temps unlikely above 14 today and house is cooling down now...
Sad news below in blog that more people lost their lives to extreme weather...
On 21 Aug 2014, Steve,dorset,UK sub wrote:
Hi from sunny Dorset, a grass frost at a notorious frost hollow this morning about 6.45 am 4c 21/8/14 a bit early for frost. Nice clear sky though with a crescent moon still in the sky chilly but nice,saw the post office people going in to work this morn with T shirts and shorts on it must be a fetish thing.
On 21 Aug 2014, Lorraine Lister (sub) NZ wrote:
The R5/R4 period brought some thundery weather ion the North of the North Island of NZ followed by a cold southerly with snow and hail up the East Coast of the South Island and also Wellington. Not as dramatic as last week but on cue for this period.
On 21 Aug 2014, Russ subs NE Derbyshire wrote:
I`m half a dozen pages from the end of `Not By Fire But By Ice` by Robert Felix, and I heartily recommend it as a great horror story, if you like reading scary stuff. If the Sun is undergoing magnetic field weakening at the same time as the Earth is, then the catalyst MUST be external. The solar system has to be entering a region of space which has a lower charge density. If the amount of available electric charge drops, then as the Sun and Earth hurtle through space the effect will be a general reduction is their magnetic field strength. This can be demonstrated with a tesla coil and a high voltage emitter wire. A small flourescent bulb moved through the electrical field causes the bulb to light; the closer the bulb to the emitter, the brighter the bulb. So if we consider that the Sun will react in a similar way to a fluctuating electrical field in space, then we`ve found a precursor to warn of potential dramatic changes in Earth`s climate. We need to watch the outer planets closely.
On 20 Aug 2014, steven glossop wrote:
Hi Piers, just a quick response to a comment made by John planet. About the Dalton minimum comparison to know. John you may or may not be right. But one thing to think of is the early 1300s had lots of very severe winters and that was the drop from the medieval warm period.
On 20 Aug 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
We're in the dog days of August - oh yeah? The ancients thought that when Sirius in the constellation Canis Maior (big dog) rose and set with the sun it created great heat; well, that would be nice just now. At least we've had a dry day today, it even got a little warm this afternoon after a 9˚C start in the morning, 16˚ at most on the thermometer which is exposed to the N, but probably a good bit warmer in sheltered sunny areas. Mostly cloudy though and a bit of rain early evening, back to 9˚ by 10pm.
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http://news.sky.com/story/1321875/iceland-thousands-of-quakes-amid-volcano-fears
On 20 Aug 2014, Steve Devine (Sub) Waltham Abbey wrote:
Landslide kills 32 near Hiroshima, Japan after 1 month's rainfall in just 24 hours causes chaos...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-28862949
On 19 Aug 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
Not a bad day… for late October, my usual joke. 10˚C at 7.30, still a relentles N wind which really beefed up before & during the showers which we had with somewhat less frequency and severity than yesterday. There were actually sunny spells, 16˚ max, during which we could see the impressive cumuls towers coming down from the North, really dark rain clouds below them following on. Taking the MO's prognosis (apparently in the Telegraph) that this winter was going to be another mild one, we were sawing and chopping wood to stock up our reserves, as per Carl's advice in last blog. 8˚ by 10pm under a clear sky & no wind, wouldn't be surprised if there is a frost in the glens tonight, Russ. Even though we never had more than 26˚ at most, the shock here is the same as everywhere else, and yes, leaf litter every where, hence the October feel.
On 19 Aug 2014, Russ subs NE Derbyshire wrote:
By`eck it`s been chilly in that wind the past couple of days; extremely cold too early morning; must have been close to a frost, yet almost heatwave levels of warmth just a couple of weeks ago. The amount of leaf litter is astonishing for mid August. There are piles of leaves around which are more reminiscent of an October landscape than an August one. ....... I think that the folklore telling of harsh winters following healthy harvests are truer than we like to accept. Little Ice Age conditions probably have these cycles but at present, I haven`t noticed any particular trend in cold winters following heavy berry production. I notice the wind is almost northerly tonight, so you may feel a shiver when you step outside in the morning Paddy. From 28C to 8C in a matter of a few weeks; quite a shock.
On 19 Aug 2014, Nick, Berks wrote:
Nigella, my experience today has been the opposite of yours. On the basis of the BBC forecast I put on jumper for a walk into town and felt like I was roasting. It felt like summer had returned. We must be in a sheltered spot. We hit a max of 23C when the sun was out, still about 21 now at 3 pm with the sky having darkened - looks like we'll be having a shower soon. Weather stations a few miles to the SW and NE show day maxima of 19 and 20C though so there are clearly some significant local variations, probably reflecting distribution of cloud and showers.
On 19 Aug 2014, Alister wrote:
@ Paul That sounds like a reasonable explanation. As for the combination of westerly high and easterly low, my guess is that this arrangement probably occurs a fair amount of the time, so someone somewhere is on the receiving end, just happens to be us right now. Didn't Northern America cop a big helping of this recently?
On 19 Aug 2014, Nigella wrote:
Brrr, it is cool. Feeling stupid for not bringing a jacket to work today, as it is only 16 degrees here in East Berks now that the sunshine has disappeared. Down to 10 degrees last night. My favourite short term forecasting site, Icelandic MO Atlantic forecast seems to be showing the air flow from the north for a few days to come yet. Is the reason it is so cool something to do with the R5?
On 19 Aug 2014, Richard Traut yearly sub Redcar wrote:
I wonder if the upcoming r4-5,s will affect this ..........
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/18/iceland-volcano-risk-raised-to-orange
On 19 Aug 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Not sure how long it had been raining for overnight but heard a hefty downpour around 4 a.m, ( brrr here too Paddy wearing jumper and scarf at 7.00 this morning whilst out feeding chickens 8 deg. and good waking up weather!-)
See a group of swallows gathering up this morning I'm wondering if they are getting ready to head off.. Met.ie saying temps between 5-8deg. Tonight.. They have also changed their improvement on temps. From wkend to possibly Monday now... Sun out now @ 8a.m and more blue sky than last few days so off out in the garden b4 it changes again...
On 18 Aug 2014, Paddy (Aberdeen south, 130m elevation, sub) wrote:
GILL: last year the rowan berries were plentiful and we had a mild winter, this year there are much fewer, at least in our forest, and some of the trees have already been denuded of leaves by last Monday's gale. Alister is nearer the mark, I think. Many fruits go in cycles with regard to their abundance, weather at flowering time is relevant. We had a huge crop of apples on our two trees, but at least half of them have been ripped off by the same gale, a whole wheelbarrow full had to be discarded. == 10˚C at 7.30 this morning, rising to only 15˚ max, many showers in the forenoon, fewer in the afternoon and evening, still cold & strong N wind, definitely needed a jacket in the morning, the afternoon sun felt warm out of the wind, but 8˚ by 9.30pm, brrrr!
On 18 Aug 2014, Ron Greer wrote:
We have the same folk lore about Rowans in Scotland, but it does not always hold true!
On 18 Aug 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Starting to try & spit with rain now @ around 7pm but we've been lucky with the sun breaking through at times today, only a few spots of rain for a min. Earlier, managed to get 150 onions pulled up and under shelter to air dry, chilly now clouds covering sun again & with this pesky nw wind around 15/16 deg. was our top temp here today, think we are looking around 8 during the early hrs, the lightweight jumpers are appearing around the house and a few leaves on the roads, smoke bush making a start on turning red, but although signs of autumn coming and summer slipping away you would never know whats around the corner with the wild contrasts we get these days...
On 18 Aug 2014, Paul, Bedfordshire (Subsr) wrote:
Alistair, I'm speculating but might be that a cut off high causes both. The warm in the spring and summer from it produces good fruit and then it produces bitter cold in winter.
On 18 Aug 2014, Alister wrote:
@ Jill Apologies for jumping to conclusions. I fail to see how a good crop of rowans is a precursor of a hard winter, surely this is a reflection of suitable growing conditions over the prior months?
On 18 Aug 2014, Gill1066 East Sussex (sub) wrote:
I wasn't referring to blackberries; as you say that is a result of the early spring and following good summer. It's the berries on the Rowan that I have noticed.
In Newfoundland, popular folklore maintains that a heavy crop of fruit on a Rowan means a hard or difficult winter. Paddy do berries on your trees in Scotland symbolise anything?
On 18 Aug 2014, Gill1066 East Sussex (sub) wrote:
I wasn't referring to blackberries; as you say that is a result of the early spring and following good summer. It's the berries on the Rowan that I have noticed.
In Newfoundland, popular folklore maintains that a heavy crop of fruit on a Rowan means a hard or difficult winter. Paddy do berries on your trees in Scotland symbolise anything?
On 18 Aug 2014, Nigella wrote:
Weather obs - from South Coast of Ireland from 12th to 16th August. Sunshine & showers. Not hot by any stretch of the imagination but probably 70% dry and 30% showers, became colder & was distinctly fresh by the time we left on 16th. Obs from East Berks for 17th - dry & cloudy with outbreaks of sunshine. Surprisingly strong wind blowing for August, which made it feel cooler than it would have been. Air has a cool, dry, autumnal feel to it. Today, again cloudy with outbreaks of sunshine & at 11.30am temp is only 18 degs. Radar showing some heavy showers further north, so I'm thinking on this northerly breeze, they may be heading my way later on today.
On 18 Aug 2014, Alister wrote:
Earlier blackberries are a result of earlier and warmer spring, not earlier arrival of autumn. Hoping for that dry spell, would ripen them up nicely, plenty of moisture around atm. In my garden, strawbs, rasps and currants were a bit early and blueberries on time (before the birds got them, need better nets). Despite a very wet winter, subsequent mild temps have been generally good for growing this year.
On 18 Aug 2014, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote:
Beautiful starry night last night quite chilly @ 10deg. With the breeze felt 8, only 11 around 8.00 this morning rising to 13deg. Now @ 10 a.m fresh and breezy some sun @ times with heavy cloud dotted around...
On 18 Aug 2014, Gill1066 East Sussex (sub) wrote:
Definitely non-scorchio south east coast of England. Sat am beautiful blue sky, warmish / sunny day. pm breezy but still good enough for our summer fete / flower show. Red arrows flew over at 2.05pm - fortunately we are on direct flightpath from Eastbourne air show. Then everything went downhill. Sat evening - my friend's outside birthday party, felt like the LIA had arrived (if not autumn). Sunday - had to wear winter jacket to go and feed chickens (ditto this morning). Very windy yesterday. Polytunnel shut all day. Bertha created a bummer! Thinking of bringing elderly pony in at night now tropical temps not returning. Sadly no Birthday ice cream for me with Auntie on the beach today; and for many years - no drink outside either. Very rare weather this naff so early. Just grateful Aga man (my super-hero) coming this afternoon to sort out Aga which died on me yesterday pm. I am surprised at how early and red the berries are around here. is this a sign of things to come?
On 18 Aug 2014, John Planet wrote:
In 1816 the cold summer conditions happened in Europe, America and worldwide as if everyone was having the same kind of weather.
2012 was a year without summer in the UK but it did not happen everywhere in the world. In fact America had a very hot summer.
The Dalton Minimum was different to what we have now. The Minimum we having now comes at the back of a warm period. The Dalton Minimum comes at the time when the world that had not recovered from the extreme cold experienced in the Maunder Minimum.
The present Minimum would come at a much warmer period than the 1800s anyway.
This could result in the new Dalton like Minimum being less cold than the one in early 1800s.
On 18 Aug 2014, John Planet wrote:
There is one question I would like to ask about the Maunder Minimum. Would 16th or 17th century astronomers would have seen the sun so spotless if they had today's technology?
it is possible we will never see the sun that quiet because we have the technology today to uncover even the smallest sunspot that 17 century Astronomers would have missed.
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